Re: Spatial KR, Synthetic Users, and “software as space” in K3D

Milton, all,

I agree that we’re past the point where more “nuts and bolts” email will 
help. A focused working session to sketch the agenda and division of 
labor makes sense.

As Einstein is supposed to have said: “If we knew what we were doing, it 
wouldn’t be called research.”


We’re clearly in that research zone now, and the best we can do is bring 
our partial pieces together and see where they fit.

I’d be glad to join one or more calls. Practically speaking, I don’t 
have a paid Zoom account myself (I do all of this from home, with 
limited resources, and even my volunteer tutoring with The Halifax 
Helpers uses other platforms), but I’m happy to join a Zoom that you or 
someone else hosts, or to use an alternative like Jitsi or Google Meet 
if that’s easier.

For an initial session, I’d suggest:

-You give a short overview of your framework and what you mean by 
“semantic compression” and domains of discourse (and its links to number 
theory / Langlands).
-I walk through how K3D and the spatial encoding we just documented 
(Galaxy/Garden/Museum, Houses/Rooms/Doors, Synthetic Users/Human 
avatars) can be seen as one instantiation of those ideas.

We agree on concrete next steps:
-what I should check (e.g., whether the spatial ontology baseline is a 
special case of your framework),
-what you’d like to see from the GPU/PTX side,
-and how we keep IP and credit clean on both sides.

If others (e.g., Dave, Owen, anyone from AI‑KR or CogAI who is 
interested) want to join as observers or contributors, I’m fully in 
favor of that.

The more we can rebuild a shared language around mathematics, KR, and 
implementation, the better.

Best,
Daniel

On 11/16/25 3:16 PM, Milton Ponson wrote:
> Just a thought.  Can we arrange one or more Zoom meetings to discuss 
> an agenda on how to proceed from here. This will avoid lengthy email 
> discussions and get things done much faster.
>
> Milton Ponson
> Rainbow Warriors Core Foundation
> CIAMSD Institute-ICT4D Program
> +2977459312
> PO Box 1154, Oranjestad
> Aruba, Dutch Caribbean
>
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2025, 14:10 Milton Ponson <rwiciamsd@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     Daniel and all,
>
>     We are wasting out time on nuts and bolts level quarreling. Both
>     the spatial baseline ontology and K3D are instantiations of a more
>     fundamental framework.
>
>     Maybe Daniel should run the spatial baseline ontology and check if
>     it is a special case of my framework model which in essence has
>     created the new mathematical field of semantic compression.
>
>     But I must admit that I left out two key number theory elements in
>     my description of the mandala graph framework.  Since everything
>     that is prompted to an ai agent gets recorded and I cherish
>     intellectual property linked to my work,  in essence it won't
>     change the results produced by Perplexity. What they do establish
>     is a link to the Langlands program.
>
>     What's happening in AI oriented computer science is akin to the
>     biblical story of the tower of Babel where the computer scientists
>     where trying to build the tower of AGI and then the "God of
>     generative AI based 9n LLMs "', Sam Altman,  scattered the
>     scientists all over the place.
>
>     There is no common language anymore.
>
>     So we MUST GO BACK TO MATHEMATICS,  TO FIND UNIVERSALITY.
>
>     Apparently Demis Hassabis at Deepmind figured this out, but
>     everybody is dismissing him at their own peril.
>
>     I am moving steadfast in reconstruction of the tower of Babel
>     using mathematics as the language for construction and design.
>
>     And with a little help of my AI agents.
>
>     On Sun, Nov 16, 2025, 13:27 Daniel Ramos <capitain_jack@yahoo.com>
>     wrote:
>
>         Dear all,
>
>         Following the recent exchanges about spatial KR, domains of
>         discourse, and the role of AI in standards, I’ve written up
>         two short documents that may clarify the paradigm I’ve been
>         trying to describe with K3D:
>
>         Spatial KR Visual Encoding
>         https://github.com/danielcamposramos/Knowledge3D/tree/main/docs/SPATIAL_KR_VISUAL_ENCODING.md
>
>         How domains of discourse, concepts, relations, modality, time
>         and adequacy are encoded as stars, rays, Gardens and Museums.
>         How Galaxy, Knowledge Garden and Museum share one coordinate
>         system and one set of visual semantics.
>         Software as Space & Web 4.0 – K3D Perspective
>         https://github.com/danielcamposramos/Knowledge3D/tree/main/docs/SOFTWARE_AS_SPACE_WEB4.md
>
>         How “software as space” and a Web 4.0 style of interaction
>         emerge when Houses/Rooms/Doors/Galaxies/Gardens/Museums become
>         the primary interface.
>         How AutoCAD‑class tools, games, and legacy web applications
>         can live as Rooms and Doors, reusing existing web protocols.
>         How we model Synthetic Users (AI inhabitants) and Human Users
>         with multiple avatars (PC/phone/AR/VR/BCI,
>         blind/deaf/low‑mobility, etc.) as first‑class users of the
>         same spatial OS.
>         The intent is to separate:
>
>         the KR layer (domains of discourse, vocabularies, spatial
>         categories);
>         from the implementation layer (PTX/CUDA, WebXR, devices),
>         while making it clear how both humans and Synthetic Users (AI
>         agents) cohabit the same spatial memory and act through the
>         same 288‑byte action contract.
>         For anyone interested in how this relates to adequacy, domains
>         of discourse, and the limits of scaling that Milton and Dave
>         have raised, I’d be happy to iterate on these docs with you or
>         map specific KR ontologies (SUMO/DOLCE/BFO, StratML, etc.)
>         into the House/Galaxy/Garden/Museum structures.
>
>         Best regards,
>         Daniel
>
>     Milton Ponson
>     Rainbow Warriors Core Foundation
>     CIAMSD Institute-ICT4D Program
>     +2977459312
>     PO Box 1154, Oranjestad
>     Aruba, Dutch Caribbean
>