- From: Daniel Ramos <capitain_jack@yahoo.com>
- Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2025 12:48:57 -0300
- To: Milton Ponson <rwiciamsd@gmail.com>, Dave Raggett <dsr@w3.org>
- Cc: W3C AIKR CG <public-aikr@w3.org>, Daniel Ramos <daniel@echosystems.ai>
- Message-ID: <6c9bd44a-7943-425f-8817-ada97c15dcc6@yahoo.com>
Dave, Milton, all, Thank you for these perspectives. The distinction Dave draws between formal explainability and practical adequacy, and Milton’s emphasis on domains of discourse and mathematical limits, is very close to what led me to build K3D in the first place. Very briefly: K3D is my attempt, as an electrical engineer, to operationalize “knowledge as domains of discourse” in a physically honest way: Domains of discourse as spatial structures Each K3D House is a bounded domain of discourse (e.g. AI‑KR, neuroscience, reliability), partitioned into Rooms and Nodes with explicit vocabularies and metadata. That’s the KR layer: a language for describing the world plus a computational model for consequences, but anchored in concrete “where” as well as “what”. Adequacy under hardware/energy constraints Instead of assuming that ever‑larger embeddings will converge to adequacy, we treat the MIP*=RE / Gödel‑style limits seriously. K3D uses procedural compression (inspired by demoscene work) and Matryoshka‑style dimensions to keep representations within realistic GPU and energy budgets, while tracking fidelity explicitly. The goal is “good enough for this domain and this task,” not an impossible complete model of all knowledge. AI as partner, not oracle MVCIC (Multi‑Vibe Code in Chain) is the methodology I used to build K3D: multiple LLMs as assistants, but every step logged as explicit KR (development chains), and every architectural decision owned by the human. That looks much more like the “AI–human symbiosis” Dave described than the “just scale the LLM” hubris Milton rightly criticises. On the implementation side: the PTX kernels are just one open‑source substrate for the KR operations (embeddings, spatial layout, consolidation). K3D’s knowledge representation design is substrate‑agnostic; PTX happens to be the way I enforce sovereignty and reproducibility on mid‑range hardware. The Houses/Rooms/Nodes/Galaxy structures could be realized on other backends just as well. I agree with Milton that “knowledge representation as a domain of discourse isn’t owned by computer scientists.” My hope is that K3D can serve as a concrete, inspectable example of how mathematics, KR, AI and electrical engineering can meet in the middle: domains of discourse represented as spatial structures, with explicit limits, explicit procedures, and explicit logs. If there is interest, I’d be happy to prepare a short note mapping K3D’s Houses/Rooms/Nodes and procedural compression more explicitly onto the adequacy vs explainability framing Dave outlined and the domains‑of‑discourse terminology Milton uses, so we can see more clearly where it fits and where it doesn’t. Best regards, Daniel
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