Re: Great Community Engagement Reader

Hello,

I would think there is some carry over of abstraction dependency from KR
into CogAI.

Thanks,

Adeel

On Thu, 20 Oct 2022 at 02:50, Paola Di Maio <paoladimaio10@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you Adeel, the cognitive architecture is done in the cog-ai CG
> however, the community engagement resource may be useful there as well
> i
>
> On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 9:27 PM Adeel <aahmad1811@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I would be interested in getting involved in the development and
>> implementation aspect of the cognitive architecture to test the theory in
>> any specific publication as part of what this community releases as output.
>> We can then collaborate further on publications. I think group involvement
>> will likely increase if there is something tangible to look at and
>> reference as a point of testing the theory. And, possibly a drive for
>> specification. I find myself skeptical on paper publications unless there
>> is some artefact associated with it to prove whether it would work.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Adeel
>>
>> On Wed, 19 Oct 2022 at 03:50, Paola Di Maio <paoladimaio10@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Owen
>>> thank you-
>>>
>>> Regarding your suggestion that what is needed is tools, I am not sure
>>>
>>> There are plenty of tools for engagement - including your own which may
>>> partly fulfil that purpose
>>>
>>> What we have found over years of community work is that there are
>>> individuals and organisations
>>> that take a lot out from the community - in terms of knowledge, ideas,
>>> resources, shared freely and without hidden agendas, for the joy of
>>> sharing,  and use the same for personal gains (career, funding publications
>>> that do not credit the source of what they write etc) without ever giving
>>> anything back
>>>
>>> In my view, what we need more of is honesty and genuine interest in the
>>> common good
>>> something that is very rare,
>>> We keep at it nonetheless, magic still happens between the cracks
>>> I am hoping someone earning a salary elsewhere but utterly bored with
>>> their life and a few spare cycles may become involved as community
>>> engagement manager with this C
>>>
>>> p
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 10:34 AM Owen Ambur <owen.ambur@verizon.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Paola, when you're ready to share your proposal, I'll look forward to
>>>> learning if it lends itself to rendition as a performance plan in StratML
>>>> Part 2 format.
>>>>
>>>> In the meantime, your message prompted me to convert to StratML Part 1
>>>> format the about statements for CSCCE & Community Initiatives at
>>>> https://stratml.us/drybridge/index.htm#CI4
>>>>
>>>> As far as the challenge of engagement is concerned, it seems to me
>>>> what's needed is pretty clear and relatively simple -- online tools that
>>>> make it easy for users to contribute to the realization of objectives of
>>>> particular interest to them:
>>>>
>>>> For those who care enough, the first step is to clarify and share their
>>>> objectives in an open, machine-readable format.
>>>>
>>>> The second is to develop services making it relatively easy for users
>>>> to share and discover objectives of special interest to them.
>>>>
>>>> And the third step is to provide services enabling users to
>>>> *contribute* to the realization of common and complementary objectives *as
>>>> best their time, resources, and expertise allow*.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If those steps are well executed, the results (or lack thereof) will
>>>> speak efficiently and effectively for themselves.  Otherwise we can just
>>>> keep writing scholarly articles and exchanging messages like this.
>>>>
>>>> BTW, CSCCE's guidebook could also be rendered as a model performance
>>>> plan for community managers but I am not yet sufficienty motivated to
>>>> do that for them.
>>>>
>>>> Owen Ambur
>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/owenambur/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 11:43:21 AM EDT, Paola Di Maio <
>>>> paola.dimaio@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Greetings folks
>>>>
>>>> This CG has over seventy members, but low member engagement. It would
>>>> be great if someone would take up the challenge to engage the community base
>>>>
>>>> I ll be sharing a proposal soon - waiting for the scholarly publication
>>>> currently with the publisher before sharing the gist of what I have been
>>>> working on - but obviously everyone is welcome to come up with suggestions
>>>> and plans on how to take things forward.
>>>>
>>>> Courtesy of the CSCCE, a great resource to stimulate interest in the
>>>> role (volunteer) and recommended reading for everyone interested in
>>>> community engagement
>>>>
>>>> *The CSCCE Skills Wheel – Five core competencies and 45 skills to
>>>> describe the role of the community engagement manager in STEM.*
>>>> https://zenodo.org/record/4437294#.Y07FXExBzrd
>>>> *This guidebook is intended to be a brief, practical introduction to
>>>> scientific community manager roles and provide a starting point for
>>>> discussing common questions about them.*
>>>>
>>>> Pdm
>>>>
>>>