- From: Alex Shkotin <alex.shkotin@gmail.com>
- Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2020 19:32:03 +0300
- To: ontolog-forum <ontolog-forum@googlegroups.com>
- Cc: W3C AIKR CG <public-aikr@w3.org>
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I got it https://groups.google.com/d/msg/ontolog-forum/MuVb2mRSACc/E2oX4krcAAAJ сб, 27 июн. 2020 г. в 15:23, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>: > Yes I think I am seeing that > Please share exciting examples > > On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 8:16 PM Alex Shkotin <alex.shkotin@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Paola, >> >> I absolutely agree with your intention and my way would be to get from >> the authors definitions for both:-) >> But I am in the position that most important and even terrific is that >> they begin to train ANN with symbolic input and/or output, getting exciting >> results. >> >> сб, 27 июн. 2020 г. в 14:50, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>: >> >>> James >>> good read, thanks for sharing >>> well, I am familiar with equations in algebra, but did not know the >>> other meanings, so I definitely learn something :-) >>> Alex: I am only concerned with ambiguity/misuse/undefined/misleading >>> terminology >>> In KR, afaik, symbolic representation does not include algebra, but some >>> scholars include in symbolic representation some types of logical notation >>> or techniques such as baesyan inference which uses algebraic notation. >>> Would his symbolic equation mean this is symbolic representation (in which >>> case I would disagree/not be sure/have to look further into it) would this >>> symbolic equation mean something else, >>> in a mathematical sense (this is why I asked) if so why does it not >>> exist in the encyclopedia of mathematics which is what I look up from time >>> to time as a reference >>> If its just used as a colloqualism to mean symbolic expression then note >>> that even that does not exist >>> as a term itself,(many forms of expression in algebra but symbolic >>> expression is not a formal definition according to the encyclopedia) I am >>> being pedantic only because I d like to understand what people are talking >>> about with these equations >>> >>> https://encyclopediaofmath.org/index.php?search=%22+expression%22&title=Special%3ASearch&profile=default&fulltext=1 >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 6:51 PM 'James Davenport' via ontolog-forum < >>> ontolog-forum@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>> >>>> There is also significant ambiguity over the meaning of the word >>>> ‘equation’: see >>>> >>>> Marcus,S. & Watt,S.M., >>>> >>>> What is an Equation?. >>>> >>>> Proc. SYNASC 2012, IEEE Press, 2012, pp. 23-29, >>>> >>>> http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~watt/pub/reprints/2012-synasc-equations.pdf >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* ontolog-forum@googlegroups.com <ontolog-forum@googlegroups.com> >>>> *On Behalf Of *Alex Shkotin >>>> *Sent:* 27 June 2020 11:09 >>>> *To:* ontolog-forum <ontolog-forum@googlegroups.com> >>>> *Cc:* W3C AIKR CG <public-aikr@w3.org> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [ontolog-forum] symbolic equation? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *CAUTION: * This email came from outside of the University. To keep >>>> your account safe, only click on links and open attachments if you know the >>>> person who sent the email, or you expected to receive this communication. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> By the way in the paper itself there is no term "symbolic equation" the >>>> most used is "symbolic expression". >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> сб, 27 июн. 2020 г. в 12:05, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>: >>>> >>>> yes, I could not find any reference in the history of maths to symbolic >>>> equations >>>> >>>> as constructs >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 4:53 PM Alex Shkotin <alex.shkotin@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Paola, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Are you asking specifically about this particular symbolic equation? >>>> >>>> [image: image.png] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Alex >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> сб, 27 июн. 2020 г. в 02:41, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>: >>>> >>>> I am not sure I understand the construct *symbolic equation *in this >>>> slide >>>> >>>> anyone could like to 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