Re: [ontolog-forum] symbolic equation?

Paola,

I absolutely agree with your intention and my way would be to get from the
authors definitions for both:-)
But I am in the position that most important and even terrific is that they
begin to train ANN with symbolic input and/or output, getting exciting
results.

сб, 27 июн. 2020 г. в 14:50, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>:

> James
> good read, thanks for sharing
> well, I am familiar with equations in algebra, but did not know the other
> meanings, so I definitely learn something :-)
> Alex:   I am only concerned with ambiguity/misuse/undefined/misleading
> terminology
> In KR, afaik, symbolic representation does not include algebra, but some
> scholars include in symbolic representation some types of logical notation
> or techniques such as baesyan inference which uses algebraic notation.
> Would his symbolic equation mean this is symbolic representation (in which
> case I would disagree/not be sure/have to look further into it) would this
> symbolic equation mean something else,
> in a mathematical sense (this is why I asked)   if so why does it not
> exist in the encyclopedia of mathematics which is what I look up from time
> to time as a reference
> If its just used as a colloqualism to mean symbolic expression then note
> that even that does not exist
> as a term itself,(many forms of expression in algebra but symbolic
> expression is not a formal definition according to the encyclopedia)  I am
> being pedantic only because I d like to understand what people are talking
> about with these equations
>
> https://encyclopediaofmath.org/index.php?search=%22+expression%22&title=Special%3ASearch&profile=default&fulltext=1
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 6:51 PM 'James Davenport' via ontolog-forum <
> ontolog-forum@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> There is also significant ambiguity over the meaning of the word
>> ‘equation’: see
>>
>> Marcus,S. & Watt,S.M.,
>>
>> What is an Equation?.
>>
>> Proc. SYNASC 2012, IEEE Press, 2012, pp. 23-29,
>>
>> http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~watt/pub/reprints/2012-synasc-equations.pdf
>>
>>
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>> *From:* ontolog-forum@googlegroups.com <ontolog-forum@googlegroups.com> *On
>> Behalf Of *Alex Shkotin
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>> By the way in the paper itself there is no term "symbolic equation" the
>> most used is "symbolic expression".
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>>
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>> сб, 27 июн. 2020 г. в 12:05, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>:
>>
>> yes, I could not find any reference in the history of maths to symbolic
>> equations
>>
>> as constructs
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 4:53 PM Alex Shkotin <alex.shkotin@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>> Paola,
>>
>>
>>
>> Are you asking specifically about this particular symbolic equation?
>>
>> [image: image.png]
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>>
>>
>> Alex
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>>
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>> сб, 27 июн. 2020 г. в 02:41, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>:
>>
>> I  am not sure I understand the construct *symbolic equation *in this
>> slide
>>
>> anyone could like to comment/explain?
>>
>> https://twitter.com/ykilcher/status/1276158135258972161/photo/1
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