- From: Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
- Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2020 13:24:44 +0800
- To: Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net>
- Cc: W3C AIKR CG <public-aikr@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAMXe=SquvAdB9Ua54bzi82hn8=7_oMuVST0pp2g+_OPtJexwoA@mail.gmail.com>
Owen ....Thank you. I am a co-chair of a group where members are encouraged to take the lead in activities they want to work on. So far except for stratMLization and two slides one from you and one from Carl. and a few resources added to Zotero not many members have actually participated much Personally. I do not feel a video call with this group is a priority, because I prefer asynchronous activities- it's your idea supported by Carl which I think is great (let the politics begin?) I have absolutely no problem with issuing an invitation on behalf of the group although now we have a co-chair. who supports your proposal. Since he agrees strongly that we should have a videocall perhaps Carl should issue the invitation? Would we want to tell them why we are inviting them to give a presentation? (like.... Owen Ambur thinks you should talk to us?) My only concern is that so far, there has been limited participation to group's activities what about if they accept our invitation and then only one or two people attend the session? I d be embarrassed. I also dont like to do things that other people think should be done (setting up a video call with FOL) because I have a lot on my plate just to advance the things which I think should be done. Likewise with you. During our call, Carl suggested 'we should ask Owen to give a presentation on StratML' which of course would be a good idea but. would it be worth to do a session with only 2-3 people in attendance? Wouldnt it be better that you give a presentation via a youtube video then everyone can look at it if interested at their own leisure, and schedule a call/discussion/panel Let us think a bit about this then decide? PDM On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 1:08 PM Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net> wrote: > Paola, in your role as chair of the CG, it would be appropriate for you to > issue the invitation and, if they agreeable, to schedule the session. > > Owen > On 2/13/2020 8:31 PM, Paola Di Maio wrote: > > Owen and Carl > please do invite the folks to give us a briefing > or would you want me to do that? > PDM > > On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 1:55 AM carl mattocks <carlmattocks@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >> Regarding authors of 'role of AI in achieving the SDGs: >> https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-019-14108-y ' >> >> I agree we should schedule a televideo conference for them to brief us >> on their AI activities and explore prospects for collaboration .. including >> gain agreement of (their) SDG tracking use case for our AIKR work. >> >> Carl >> >> >> >> It was a pleasure to clarify >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 12:09 PM Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net> >> wrote: >> >>> According to Wikipedia, intelligence involves perceiving the environment >>> and acting to maximize the chance of achieving goals. >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence The article also >>> cites Tesler's Theorem: "AI is whatever hasn't been done yet." See also >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_effect >>> >>> While it may be possible for intelligent agents to decipher goals from >>> unstructured text, it seems likely they might be able to more effectively >>> help us achieve our goals if we make them explicit in terms of near-term >>> objectives and performance indicators. Since that has not yet been done on >>> a worldwide scale, why should it not begin with us? >>> >>> There are more than 4,000 plans in the StratML collection that can be >>> used for demonstration purposes, including the SDGs: >>> https://stratml.us/drybridge/index.htm#UNSDG >>> >>> As far as I am aware, however, progress against the SDGs is not being >>> reported in an open, standard, machine-readable format. See, for example, >>> the HTML, CSV & PDF at https://unstats.un.org/sdgs/report/2019/ The >>> presentation of the data is actually pretty good. See, for example, >>> https://unstats.un.org/sdgs/report/2019/goal-17/ >>> >>> The problem is that few people know about and take the time to view it, >>> much less to do anything about it. While making the data available in >>> open, standard, machine-readable format would not solve that problem, it >>> would make it easier for value-added intermediaries to engage stakeholders >>> in ways that are more accessible and meaningful to them, e.g., in their own >>> personal and organizational/corporate performance plans. From my >>> perspective, failing to do so is an example of artificial ignorance. >>> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/artificial-ignorance-owen-ambur/ >>> >>> Here's an article addressing the role of AI in achieving the SDGs: >>> https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-019-14108-y It is relatively >>> long and unstructured and I haven't taken the time to read all of it. >>> However, here some key point: >>> >>> We therefore recommend that AI applications that target SDGs are open >>> and explicit about guiding ethical principles, also by indicating >>> explicitly how they align with the existing guidelines. >>> >>> See StratML tool, app, and service requirements Objective 8.3: Values >>> Alignment >>> <https://stratml.us/carmel/iso/SMLTASwStyle.xml#_154473aa-208f-11e6-a80e-7333871eb3cb> >>> & Goal 9: Values Validation >>> <https://stratml.us/carmel/iso/SMLTASwStyle.xml#_15447c10-208f-11e6-a80e-7333871eb3cb>. >>> Those requirements are prime candidates for the application of AI. >>> >>> On the other hand, the lack of interpretability of AI, which is >>> currently one of the challenges of AI research, adds an additional >>> complication to the enforcement of such regulatory actions ... >>> >>> AI developers and agents should be expected, if not required, to >>> document their objectives and performance indicators in an open, standard >>> format that is both human- and machine-readable. >>> >>> ... associations such as the Future of Life Institute are reviewing and >>> collecting policy actions and shared principles around the world to monitor >>> progress towards sustainable-development-friendly AI ... >>> >>> Perhaps we should schedule a televideo conference for them to brief us >>> on their AI activities and explore prospects for collaboration. >>> https://stratml.us/carmel/iso/FLIwStyle.xml >>> >>> A global and science-driven debate to develop shared principles and >>> legislation among nations and cultures is necessary to shape a future in >>> which AI positively contributes to the achievement of all the SDGs. >>> >>> Whenever I see calls for legislation and regulation, I view it both as a >>> cop out as well as an attempt to dictate to others that which we should >>> take upon ourselves to do, in partnership with those who share our values >>> and objectives. Perhaps those who view it as the best way forward should >>> either study the China model ... or just stand idly by and wait for them to >>> impose it on all of us. For an alternative model, see >>> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/privately-well-practiced-public-policymaking-owen-ambur/ >>> >>> Here's a shorter article on AI & the SDGs: >>> https://www.undp.org/content/undp/en/home/blog/2019/Using_AI_to_help_achieve_Sustainable_Development_Goals.html >>> It suggests, "To improve data accessibility, for example, collectors and >>> generators of data, whether governments or companies, will need to grant >>> greater access to NGOs and others seeking to use the data for public >>> service." However, it shows no awareness of the importance of open, >>> machine-readable data standards -- perhaps because usage of such standards >>> would reduce the need for consultants ... or, rather, it would require them >>> to add higher-level values than massaging amorphous, aimless data. >>> >>> With respect to dashboards, see >>> https://gcn.com/articles/2017/09/12/yet-another-dashboard.aspx & >>> https://gcn.com/articles/2017/05/10/machine-readable-data.aspx >>> >>> I look forward to learning what we might be able to do together along >>> these lines. >>> >>> Owen >>> >>> >>> On 2/8/2020 7:55 PM, Paola Di Maio wrote: >>> >>> >>> xml constitutes a structure for language, and certain kinds of AI can be >>> built >>> using structured language expressions >>> >>> PDM >>> >>> On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 1:34 AM ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program < >>> metadataportals@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Can AI be used on StratML utilizing ontologies to create customizable >>>> dashboards for project management and collaboration for large networks of >>>> collaborating people from different fields of work? >>>> >>>> Question is of importance in eGovernment, eGovernance and achieving >>>> sustainable development goals. >>>> >>>> Milton Ponson >>>> GSM: +297 747 8280 >>>> PO Box 1154, Oranjestad >>>> Aruba, Dutch Caribbean >>>> Project Paradigm: Bringing the ICT tools for sustainable development >>>> to all stakeholders worldwide through collaborative research on applied >>>> mathematics, advanced modeling, software and standards development >>>> >>>
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