- From: Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2020 09:29:34 +0800
- To: Pete Rivett <pete.rivett@adaptive.com>
- Cc: carl mattocks <carlmattocks@gmail.com>, W3C AIKR CG <public-aikr@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAMXe=SrExDgVUufcW+Y0FwJWZB-v0ec+MJdCk6XOmtoMWrm68A@mail.gmail.com>
Carl and Pete actually we moved from collecting the resources from the form to Zotero, but the forms is still good and can be used. At some point we should integrate the two so please Carl and others use the form if you want to curate a list apart from Zotero, but ideally just stick the proposed references in Zotero with an appropriate tag? Please let me know if you need access to the forms, need some changes. If you feel a particular resource benefits from discussion of course let us know, provided the relevance of the resource to the group interest is explicit or explained Form : https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/welcome/ai-kr-task-list/knowledge-sources-for-ai-kr/ Zotero https://www.zotero.org/groups/2351244/knowledge_representation On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 8:51 AM Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com> wrote: > Thank you Pete > > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 8:36 PM Pete Rivett <pete.rivett@adaptive.com> > wrote: > >> Hi Carl, >> >> We already have this list (with 9 current resources): >> https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/welcome/ai-kr-task-list/knowledge-sources-for-ai-kr/ >> >> >> >> I think we should improve the presentation of the list we have rather >> than creating a new one. Assuming that’s what you were proposing. If you >> were asking for agreement on including that specific paper in the list, >> then fine. I don’t think each addition needs group agreement given that the >> form already asks the contributor to rate and speak to its relevance. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Pete >> >> >> >> *From:* carl mattocks <carlmattocks@gmail.com> >> *Sent:* Saturday, February 1, 2020 3:18 PM >> *To:* W3C AIKR CG <public-aikr@w3.org> >> *Subject:* Adding CL extension of RULEML to list of >> normative/non-normative reference material >> >> >> >> Members: >> >> >> >> is anyone against having a curated list of normative/non-normative >> reference material that includes the paper (which speaks to a CL extension >> of RULEML) >> >> >> >> http://ruleml.org/papers/AthanDissertation/AthanGISDissertation2011.pdf >> XCLX: An XML-based Common Logic eXtension with Embedded Geography Markup >> Language >> >> >> >> >> >> thanks >> >> >> >> Carl Mattocks >> >> co-Chair AIKR CG >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 9:31 AM carl mattocks <carlmattocks@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> All AIKR : >> >> Regarding CL - as a candidate for our curated list of >> normative/non-normative reference material - please review the paper that >> speaks to a CL extension of RULEML >> >> >> >> http://ruleml.org/papers/AthanDissertation/AthanGISDissertation2011.pdf >> XCLX: An XML-based Common Logic eXtension with Embedded Geography Markup >> Language >> >> >> >> I will send a follow on 'vote please' email after January 31 >> >> >> >> thanks for your participation >> >> >> >> Carl Mattocks >> >> CarlMattocks@WellnessIntelligence.Institute >> >> >> It was a pleasure to clarify >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 4:39 PM ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program < >> metadataportals@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> Can I suggest we stick to StratML and CL which is the basis for >> conceptual structures (see http://www.jfsowa.com/pubs/cg4cs.pdf)? >> >> >> >> This way we know we are applying standards in the to be developed general >> common frame of reference for AI and KR. >> >> >> >> Will get back on this and my mission statemennt. >> >> >> >> Milton Ponson >> GSM: +297 747 8280 >> PO Box 1154, Oranjestad >> Aruba, Dutch Caribbean >> *Project Paradigm*: Bringing the ICT tools for sustainable development >> to all stakeholders worldwide through collaborative research on applied >> mathematics, advanced modeling, software and standards development >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, January 7, 2020, 12:49:24 AM AST, Paola Di Maio < >> paoladimaio10@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Owen >> >> >> >> The whole purpose of life is about making aspirations true, compatibly >> with everything else >> >> >> >> I think a small demo of an automated agents that monitors certain key >> parameters written in xml is perfectly feasible, given a set of rules, >> , as a proof of concept >> >> I generally only do only what is within my immediate reach >> >> Here is a way it could be done: >> >> have a parameter set of CG overall goals, >> >> for each member have a set of actions contributing to CG goals >> >> run the agent periodically to check the status of the actions against the >> goals >> >> I am fairly sure we can find a 10 years old to help us write it :-) >> >> >> >> Large scale real world implementations may not be feasible >> >> because too many people need to be consulted, and too many people >> >> have conflicting views, and there is too much speculation and profiteering >> >> Technologies that dont cost much (other than server and developer time >> perhaps) >> >> tend not to be popular >> >> >> >> So lets think of implementing a working prototype and surely it will take >> shape at some point. >> >> At a minimum, as they used to say, we can prove that we can eat our own >> dog food :-0D >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 11:14 AM Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net> >> wrote: >> >> Please, Paola, stop. You're about to put me over the edge. >> >> I've long been dreaming about engaging a bunch of students in a brigade >> to do for public agencies what they should be doing for themselves, i.e., >> publishing their performance plans and reports in an open, standard, >> machine-readable format like StratML. While I've been hoping it might >> happen in India, I can't imagine the Chinese or Russian government, for >> example, would stand for that but, hey, I love to be proven wrong ... about >> such delirious dreams. >> >> Far short of that, it would be wonderful if someone could develop a query >> service that leverages the semantics and structure of the StratML schema as >> per the requirements outlined at Query/Discovery >> <http://stratml.us/carmel/iso/SMLTASwStyle.xml#_15446932-208f-11e6-a80e-7333871eb3cb> >> - Enable not only full-text but also faceted querying and discovery of >> discrete elements of StratML documents. >> >> There are more than 4,000 plans in the StratML collection >> <http://stratml.us/drybridge/index.htm> that can be used for >> demonstration purposes. Hopefully, someday the collection will become too >> valuable to ignore or, at least, to treat as any old unstructured >> information, as the incumbent full-text indexing services apparently do. >> >> Owen >> >> On 1/6/2020 9:04 PM, Paola Di Maio wrote: >> >> :-) lots of features to play with >> >> >> >> ha ha, not sure if I would like an agent to remind me I am behind >> >> with my own goals but technically, neat possibility >> >> >> >> Let's work on the idea of a possible demo implementation/prototype - >> >> >> >> I design web services (workflow, general specs etc), do not write the >> implementation code for which generally I pair with a coder >> >> >> >> can find some students who may want to do so, or coud even set out to >> >> spend ten minutes a week towards learning how to implement myself so that >> the geeks on this list could either help or slam >> >> >> >> P >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 9:46 AM Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net> wrote: >> >> Don't get me too excited, Paola. I can only stand so much fun. However, >> at the risk of becoming delirious, I invite attention to these StratML >> tool, app, and service requirements related to monitoring and nudging: >> >> Goal 7: Analysis >> <http://stratml.us/carmel/iso/SMLTASwStyle.xml#_2384f48a-208f-11e6-8dd1-b735871eb3cb> >> - Enable automated as well as human assisted analysis >> >> Goal 11: Deadline Reminders >> <http://stratml.us/carmel/iso/SMLTASwStyle.xml#_2384fe08-208f-11e6-8dd1-b735871eb3cb> >> - Provide notification of impending end dates for performance indicators >> >> Goal 15: Partnerships >> <http://stratml.us/carmel/iso/SMLTASwStyle.xml#_2385057e-208f-11e6-8dd1-b735871eb3cb> >> - Enable potential performance partners to easily identify each other and >> cross-reference their common and/or complementary objectives in each >> other's respective plans and reports (transformation of the >> advertising/marketing paradigm) >> >> Goal 19: Subscriptions >> <http://stratml.us/carmel/iso/SMLTASwStyle.xml#_23850cfe-208f-11e6-8dd1-b735871eb3cb> >> - Provide automated notification of changes/updates to goals, objectives >> and/or performance indicators of interest to particular stakeholder groups >> >> Goal 21: Critical Mass >> <http://stratml.us/carmel/iso/SMLTASwStyle.xml#_238510c8-208f-11e6-8dd1-b735871eb3cb> >> - Enable users to rally around, create networking "bandwagon" effects, >> establish critical mass and reach tipping points at which achievement of >> goals can be assured (pledges, contributions, referrals, challenges, etc.) >> >> I'm not smart enough to write the intelligent agents but I'd love to >> connect with those who are. >> >> Owen >> >> On 1/6/2020 8:29 PM, Paola Di Maio wrote: >> >> Thank you Own >> >> >> >> if we write into the plan our individual proposed actions and goals >> >> we could probably also write some intelligent agent to monitor and nudge >> >> how we are doing against our own targets. could be fun >> >> >> >> PDM >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 6:17 AM Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net> wrote: >> >> I updated my StratML rendition of our plan at >> http://stratml.us/carmel/iso/part2/AIKRCGforComment.xml to include the >> roles for which we have volunteered (in E-mail messages). >> >> It would be good if we could more explicitly document our proposed >> deliverables as performance indicators under each of our objectives. >> >> Anyone who may wish to contribute toward that end could use the mailto >> links in the plan to address comments to our listserv. >> >> Owen >> >> On 1/3/2020 3:53 PM, carl mattocks wrote: >> >> >> >> To help the AI KR progress in 2020 as co-chair I propose to be: >> >> Co-editor of https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/ >> >> Lead editor of an AI KR Element Inventory >> >> Key contributor to AIKR eGovernance documents >> >> >> >> and continue to be a general factotum >> >> >> >> >> >> wishing us all a happy new decade >> >> >> >> Carl Mattocks >> >> >> It was a pleasure to clarify >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 10:45 PM Paola Di Maio <paoladimaio10@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Milton >> >> >> >> Glad you like the idea - I am thinking of a handbook that can serve as a >> general guidance for different domains, with one version aimed at >> egovernance. >> >> >> >> I see the focus egovernance rather than egovernment, but there is a lot >> of material >> >> on the latter, that we could abstract from to make it relevant and >> generalized to fit the former >> >> >> >> there is still some work to be done in terms of aligning >> >> different knowledge domain, >> >> >> >> also, I am working on a few parallel topics - diverse branches of KR >> applications >> >> with several deadlines coming up in the next few months >> >> >> >> thanks for the suggestion of starting a lit review on KR for governance >> >> >> >> Some of the resources I d like to include in a lit review are not >> accessible >> >> (started a search some time ago) and still searching for ways to access >> them >> >> >> >> However there are some good resources openly accessible >> >> >> >> I started a tag on zotero >> >> >> https://www.zotero.org/groups/2351244/knowledge_representation/items/tag/governance >> >> >> >> >> please add resources and start drafting whatever inspires you >> >> >> >> I am working on specific aspects of KR for eGov, and will share when >> ready, but in the meantime, good idea to start gathering the field >> >> >> >> >> >> PDM >> >> On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 12:39 AM ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program < >> metadataportals@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> Dear members of the AIKR CG. I am particularly interested in the issue of >> AI and KR for eGovernance and eGovernment. >> >> The UNCAC (United Nationas Convention Against Corruption) and AML/CFT >> treaties (anti money laundering/combating financing of terrorism) are very >> specific in compliance and thus governance, but everything else is still >> vague including what should constitute corporate, social, environmental, >> human rights and sustainable development governance and the Sustainable >> Development Goals do not in particular help clearly define governance. >> >> >> >> >> >> In fact there is no clear definition of the boundaries, overlapping >> issues and distinction between legislation/law enforcement/compliance, >> moral conduct, ethical conduct/codes, corporate governance/rules of >> conduct, governance/guidelines. >> >> >> >> Thus eGovernance is highly context sensitive, which makes the KR very >> important and the AI component determining the context/environment very >> important as well. >> >> >> >> What would be very useful is some essays on how to map from a generalized >> set of concepts and ontologies onto the currently more familiar areas of >> legislation, legal guidelines, ethical codes of conduct and the various >> forms of more or less well established corporate, social and environmental >> governance. >> >> >> >> A useful starting point would be to do a literature review on ontologies >> and indicators for governance. >> >> >> >> Again, very good idea the eBook on AI and KR for eGovernance. >> >> >> >> Milton Ponson >> GSM: +297 747 8280 >> PO Box 1154, Oranjestad >> Aruba, Dutch Caribbean >> *Project Paradigm*: Bringing the ICT tools for sustainable development >> to all stakeholders worldwide through collaborative research on applied >> mathematics, advanced modeling, software and standards development >> >> >> >> >> >> [deleted] >> >>
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