Re: online bibliography tools

Hi All,

I have uploaded about 385 articles from my personal Zotero library that 
I think might be of interest to this group. (This is about 10% of my 
library.) This is the first I have synced with a group, and it is slick.

The basic steps are to:

 1. Join the Zotero group
 2. Sync your local library to the online Zotero (upper right spin icon)
 3. Search or otherwise extract the items in your local library you
    think are of interest
 4. Look to the group library folders (appear in the lower part of the
    left pane)
 5. Identify the appropriate group sub-category (what Zotero calls
    'collections'; I have created a couple of new ones) or create a new
    sub-category (if you have admin rights)
 6. Select the items from your search in the middle pane and
    drag-and-drop to the desired group sub-category
 7. Once activity ceases (you will be notified if attachments are being
    forwarded, for example), again sync to the online Zotero (upper
    right spin icon). THIS STEP IS WHAT ACTUALLY UPDATES THE GROUP LIBRARY.

Obviously, these steps are for moving existing citations from existing 
Zotero libraries to the group one. For new, individual citations, you 
can add them manually by clicking the green icon above the middle screen 
for the relevant sub-category, then follow instructions. I would caution 
contributors to make sure your citations are as complete as possible 
when added, since going back and fixing incomplete entries at a later 
time will likely never happen or incur too much effort.

I can see a couple of issues moving forward. First, I try to find PDFs 
for all of my own citations, and I uploaded those to the group library. 
Under this approach, my own library exceeds 4 GB (3300 PDFs for 4000 
citations). I can see that storage limits may be a problem for the 
group. Is there a budget for this or are storage limits waived for groups?

Second, my personal tags are the ones that got imported. I can foresee 
over time "tag soup" with all of the issues that traditionally brings.

Like all group efforts, they only succeed if sufficient participants 
participate or contribute. I likely will not be an active maintainer of 
this library, but I will keep managing my own and make contributions of 
new citations on occasion.

Best, Mike

On 7/20/2019 7:02 AM, Paola Di Maio wrote:
> OK -
> i have created a Zotero Group, which has a library
> https://www.zotero.org/groups/2351244/knowledge_representation?
>
> Have opted for closed public group, because open public group does not
> have file storage enabled (have not looked into the benefits of having 
> file storage avaialble
> I assume its a plus)
>
> I am not familiar with this platform, and need to find my way around
> (have not yet worked out how to use synch, but have worked out how to 
> create entries
> manually using the web interface)
>
> on a very heavy schedule packed with deadlines for the next few weeks, 
> so I cant spend time on this now
>
> Can I nominate the folks who responded to this thread, as well as
> anyone else who wishes to volunteer, as Group Admins?
> Can people try to join as members to see if it works? THANKS
>
> I sincerely hope group members will contribute some resources, even just
> the papers they may have published and the bibliographies that they 
> have used in their papers
>
> This could easily and quickly become a useful reference for a KR 
> community!!
>
> Looks like a straight forward tree structure, with
> The 'file types already set (Journal, Book, etc)
>
> Do we need to create additional cateories, or just use tags?
>
> And for each category, I wonder if the resources can be
> sorted by date, alphabeticaly or using other sort criteria?
> I presume this library could  become gigantic in no time, beetter
> think of its organisation before we start populating it
>
> Please start populating
>
> PDM
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 11:40 PM Mike Bergman <mike@mkbergman.com 
> <mailto:mike@mkbergman.com>> wrote:
>
>     +1 for Zotero; it keeps getting more awesome, and has for 10 years.
>
>     Mike
>
>     On 7/19/2019 5:03 PM, Amirouche Boubekki wrote:
>>
>>
>>     Le ven. 19 juil. 2019 à 12:12, brandon <brandon@popokotea.org
>>     <mailto:brandon@popokotea.org>> a écrit :
>>
>>         I've had good experiences thus far with Zotero, but YMMV. 
>>         You are right though, a more relevant resource may make a
>>         huge difference.
>>         /Brandon
>>
>>
>>
>>         ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>>         On Friday, July 19, 2019 9:23 AM, Paola Di Maio
>>         <paola.dimaio@gmail.com <mailto:paola.dimaio@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>>         Since the start of this work I have collected an extensive
>>>         bibliography, over 1000 citations
>>>         Now I realise it may be more productive in the long term to
>>>         create the list of resources
>>>         using an appropriate tools, but the choice of tools is soo
>>>         vast.
>>>         So now I have two headaches and more
>>>
>>>         any recommendations welcome
>>>         https://elearningindustry.com/12-best-free-online-bibliography-and-citation-tools
>>>
>>>
>>>         maybe this one?
>>>         https://cloudcite.net/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>     When I was working in academia, we relied on zotero.
>>
>>
>>     -- 
>>     Amirouche ~ amz3 ~ https://hyper.dev
>
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