Re: welcome newcomers subgroups, home page and categories

My category theory approach makes sure we do not overlook anything. Ontologies are at the "nuts and bolts"  level.
Artificial intelligence currently has an anthropocentric point of view, which results in a myopia.
Using category theory we define entities, sentient entities, cognitive entities, intelligent entities and technological entities, where at the entities level, we consider real physical universe entities, digital entities, virtual entities and abstract domain entities, all other entities exist in the real physical world.
All will become clear as soon as I get the paper out.
 Milton Ponson
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    On Thursday, July 19, 2018 7:55 AM, carl mattocks <carlmattocks@gmail.com> wrote:
 

 I believe the ontology building approach is the best way to ensure formulation of AIKR concept definitions have sufficient rigor.Thus, definitions of concepts old and new are framed by our work goals.
Carl
It was a pleasure toclarify

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 7:34 AM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com> wrote:

actually, Carlin addition to new definitions for existing concepts
there are 'new concepts' coming up every day that need defining
is the vocabulary entry form  adequate for your suggestedprocess or if you suggest changes,should we add a category 'new concept' or if you d like to set upa new form entirely for 'new concept' where formal definitions not yet exist?
PDM
Dr Paola Di MaioCenter For Technology Ethics
ISTCS.orgChair: W3C AIKR 

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On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 7:56 PM, carl mattocks <carlmattocks@gmail.com> wrote:

I support including concept definitions for AI and KR and the compound AIKR in an AIKR Upper Ontology .. especially if they employ or are employed as normative references
Carl
It was a pleasure toclarify

On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 9:59 AM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com> wrote:

Thank you Carl
t thanks for the suggestion and link but then, we may have to agree on a definition for ;new;are AI and KR new concepts? or are we trying to create new definitions for existing conceptsLol(disclosure: I belong to the pedantic camp)
Dr Paola Di MaioCenter For Technology Ethics
ISTCS.orgChair: W3C AIKR 

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On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 6:56 PM, carl mattocks <carlmattocks@gmail.com> wrote:

To help progress .. please consider using a page with content similar to 'concept creation' guidelines

   
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      - 1.1 What sort of 'thing' is this proposed concept anyway?
      - 1.2 How to decide? Is it important?
      - 1.3 Understanding context
      - 1.4 The "Conversation" is valuable

   - 2 Using a Meta-Model (or two)
   - 3 Create a new proposed Concept
https://wiki.idesg.kantarainit iative.org/wiki/index.php/Conc ept_Creation_Guidelines

Carl Mattocks
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On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 1:55 AM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com> wrote:

Thank you Milton
Do you have a way you'd like to propose the way forward?
Shall we just create two pages, where we collect existing definitions and come up with our own definition that possibly encompasses them all, thus delivers the broadest possible meaning?
Should the group be the 'owner' of these two definitions?
Let me know if you can initiate these two pages
P
Dr Paola Di MaioCenter For Technology Ethics
ISTCS.orgChair: W3C AIKR 

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On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 3:21 AM, ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <metadataportals@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi Paola and other members of the AIKR community group.
Two things we need to establish to reach a consensus of the area we are going to deal with.
Number one: the broadest possible definition of what constitutes "artificial intelligence" and number two what constitutes "knowledge representation" also in the broadest possible sense.
Only then can we assess what grounds we want or need to cover.
It is for that reason I proposed to create and overview map of what currently constitutes AI and related disciplines.
But I am also writing a definition paper using category theory to establish a generalized framework which introduces all possible categories of interacting entities, and utilizes a system to define boundaries for AI for interaction, as suggested by the likes of Stephen Hawking, Elon Musk, Kurzweil and countless others.

regards Milton Ponson
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    On Sunday, July 15, 2018 2:41 AM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com> wrote:
 

 Welcome newcomers (22 members!) there's a thread in the mailing list to intro yourselves at your convenience
Based on other work, and anticipating future developments(Milton mentioned subgroups) I have created a page subgroups, and opened two additional pages as containers for future subgroups where some work may be needed (AI Ethics KR and Professional schemas).Feel free to edit, add, enter etchttps://www.w3.org/community/a ikr/subgroups/

This is a bit ahead of us perhaps but things are moving fast to have the pages may be cognitive support. The professional schema entry may need better wording, I have not thought it property yet.
I have two issues with our home page, maybe W3C folks on this list can assist?
Herehttps://www.w3.org/community/a ikr/

1. The main text area of the page contains some duplicate text, I dont seem to be able to edit/access the upper portion of the group description, I have pinged Veronica Thom about this but have not yet had any reply. Maybe this was created by staff and I cannot edit? can someone assist
2. On the right hand sidebar, where it says 'categories' the categories which I created are not listed, can someone help?  
Thank you!!
PDM
Dr Paola Di MaioCenter For Technology Ethics
ISTCS.orgChair: W3C AIKR 

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