- From: Tom Stephens <tomste@microsoft.com>
- Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 19:13:15 -0700
- To: "'Rodney Thayer'" <rodney@sabletech.com>
- Cc: "'pcttalk@ftp.com'" <pcttalk@ftp.com>, "'ietf-tls@w3.org'" <ietf-tls@w3.org>
>SSLv3 and PCTv2 are both PAPER protocols. We're living with SSLv2 and >PCTv1 in real code, and we all agree that's not good enough. The >purpose of this TLS working group is to come up with something more >secure and more open, but I agree with Win and Taher that we need to be >in Final Draft form by July to have an IETF standard in 1996. This is >critical to all of us so that we don't have to even think about what we >implement. "STLP" should be the Internet standard - so let's get serious about what's in it, so we can all get on with the code. >Do any of you want to sit down together for a day and work up an STLP >draft to present to the whole working group before the IETF meeting in >June? There's some great discussion going on the list, but maybe a >face-to-face meeting with anyone who is really interested could >accelerate the process. Any takers? I would be happy to schedule and arrange for such a meeting if people are amenable. Tom Stephens Program Manager Microsoft Corporation >---------- >From: Rodney Thayer[SMTP:rodney@sabletech.com] >Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 1996 3:12 AM >To: Sean Dalby >Cc: pcttalk@ftp.com; rodney@sabletech.com >Subject: which to implement? > >netscape in the ssl3 spec claims it is going to deprecate ssl2 > >yet ssl2 has a significant installed base and I'm not convinced it will >go >away the moment <something else> shows up, regardless of what the >something >else is. > >now there's the IETF activity too. > >and there's an other Microsoft protocol (can't remember it's name at >the moment) > >and there's SHTTP which apparently has not yet disappeared -- although >since >you can't buy any browsers that support it maybe it's not really here >yet. > >of course all this could become instantly irrelevant if for example >Master >Card started giving away free netscape plug-in's with their own >encryption >scheme. > >this all makes for a tough call on what to implement. my personal >conclusion, >today, is: > > 1. reconsider decision continuously > 2. do not implement ssl2 as netscape is going to desupport it soon > 3. do not implement non-existant protocols (meaning SSL3, today.) > 4. use a protocol known to be implement by others > >so today's answer ends up being PCT. I really would rather do >something >with a genuine IETF process behind it but there is no such protocol >today. >Yes yes there is now an active process, and that's *GOOD*, but there >ain't >no code today. > >just my opinion... > >At 03:04 PM 4/16/96 -0600, you wrote: > ... > > Rodney Thayer :: >rodney@sabletech.com > Sable Technology Corp :: +1 617 332 >7292 > 246 Walnut St :: Fax: +1 617 332 >7970 > Newton MA 02160 USA :: >http://www.shore.net/~sable > "Developers of communications software" > >
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