Re: I-D Action: draft-pauly-httpbis-geoip-hint-01.txt

Hi Stephen,

It'd be helpful if you could explain why you oppose it -- either directly or by reference (if you've made the argument before). It's hard to evaluate without more detail.

Cheers,


> On 20 Oct 2024, at 12:36 am, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hiya,
> 
> Two years on, I still strongly oppose this work.
> 
> Wouldn't we all be better off if we instead spent more effort on
> trying to improve the Internet (and the web) by reducing the levels
> of commercial surveillance (as we agreed to in RFC7258) rather than
> enabling new ways to make that problem worse?
> 
> I'm not questioning the authors' bona-fides here, but this would
> be going in entirely the wrong direction.
> 
> Thanks,
> S.
> 
> 
> On 10/19/24 04:38, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
>> Internet-Draft draft-pauly-httpbis-geoip-hint-01.txt is now available. It is a
>> work item of the HTTP (HTTPBIS) WG of the IETF.
>>    Title:   The IP Geolocation HTTP Client Hint
>>    Authors: Tommy Pauly
>>             David Schinazi
>>             Ciara McMullin
>>             Dustin Mitchell
>>    Name:    draft-pauly-httpbis-geoip-hint-01.txt
>>    Pages:   7
>>    Dates:   2024-10-18
>> Abstract:
>>    Techniques that improve user privacy by hiding original client IP
>>    addresses, such as VPNs and proxies, have faced challenges with
>>    server that rely on IP addresses to determine client location.
>>    Maintaining a geographically relevant user experience requires large
>>    pools of IP addresses, which can be costly.  Additionally, users
>>    often receive inaccurate geolocation results because servers rely on
>>    geo-IP feeds that can be outdated.  To address these challenges, we
>>    can allow clients to actively send their network geolocation directly
>>    to the origin server via an HTTP Client Hint.  This approach will not
>>    only enhance geolocation accuracy and reduce IP costs, but it also
>>    gives clients more transparency regarding their perceived
>>    geolocation.
>> The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pauly-httpbis-geoip-hint/
>> There is also an HTML version available at:
>> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-pauly-httpbis-geoip-hint-01.html
>> A diff from the previous version is available at:
>> https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-pauly-httpbis-geoip-hint-01
>> Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at:
>> rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts
> 

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