Re: New Version Notification for draft-kazuho-httpbis-selftrace-00.txt

On 8/13/21 10:43 PM, Mark Nottingham wrote:

>>    To prevent this attack, servers SHOULD serve self-trace only when
>>    HTTPS is being used.  The assumption here is that when HTTPS is being
>>    used, end-clients are directly connected to the server.

> I'm not sure that's a reasonable assumption; enterprise MITM proxies
> are pretty widely deployed. They may not currently implement h2 or
> h3, but that's not something we can rely upon.


In fact, there are enterprise MITM proxies that inspect H2 already -- we
have been helping to test them for a few years now. I do not know about
H3 because Web Polygraph does not support H3 yet.


Cheers,

Alex.


>> On 13 Aug 2021, at 4:14 pm, Kazuho Oku <kazuhooku@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello folks,
>>
>> Today Jana and I have submitted a tiny I-D called draft-kazuho-httpbis-selftrace.
>>
>> The draft specifies a well-known URI to be used for providing a trace of a particular HTTP/3 connection (e.g., qlog) on that same HTTP/3 connection.
>>
>> One of the biggest hurdles in analyzing HTTP/3 performance issues is obtaining traces that show the symptoms. That is because clients being affected by issues have to coordinate with the server operators to collect the traces.
>>
>> This PR solves the problem by defining a well-known URI for serving a trace to the client on the HTTP connection that the client is using. When a user sees an issue, they can collect the traces themselves and provide it to the server operator.
>>
>> We have already implemented the feature in h2o, and doing so was easy, assuming that the underlying QUIC stack already defines callbacks for collecting trace events, see lib/handler/self_trace.c of https://github.com/h2o/h2o/pull/2765.
>>
>> We also have a public endpoint; to try it out, first open https://ora1.kazuhooku.com/test/self-trace/video-only.html (which starts streaming a video), then open https://ora1.kazuhooku.com/.well-known/self-trace. While the video is being served, you would see the trace flowing through the well-known URI.
>>
>> At the moment, we are using a custom JSON format for the trace, but when gzip compression is applied on-the-fly, the overhead of sending a trace alongside ordinary HTTP responses is less than 10%. Therefore, we tend to believe that this approach would work well in practice.
>>
>> Please let us know what you think - your feedback is very welcome.
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> From: <internet-drafts@ietf.org>
>> Date: 2021年8月13日(金) 14:53
>> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-kazuho-httpbis-selftrace-00.txt
>> To: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>, Kazuho Oku <kazuhooku@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> A new version of I-D, draft-kazuho-httpbis-selftrace-00.txt
>> has been successfully submitted by Kazuho Oku and posted to the
>> IETF repository.
>>
>> Name:           draft-kazuho-httpbis-selftrace
>> Revision:       00
>> Title:          Self-Tracing for HTTP
>> Document date:  2021-08-13
>> Group:          Individual Submission
>> Pages:          5
>> URL:            https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-kazuho-httpbis-selftrace-00.txt
>> Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-kazuho-httpbis-selftrace/
>> Htmlized:       https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-kazuho-httpbis-selftrace
>>
>>
>> Abstract:
>>    This document registers a "Well-Known URI" for exposing state of an
>>    HTTP connection to the peer using formats such as qlog schema [QLOG].
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The IETF Secretariat
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Kazuho Oku
> 
> --
> Mark Nottingham   https://www.mnot.net/
> 

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