- From: Tommy Pauly <tpauly@apple.com>
- Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 09:52:58 -0700
- To: Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
- Cc: David Schinazi <dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com>, IETF QUIC WG <quic@ietf.org>, HTTP Working Group <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>
- Message-id: <947824BE-89FA-45FF-9383-77C13ACED73E@apple.com>
> On Apr 28, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com> wrote: > > I misremembered the previous discussion; it was on the list, not on Slack, so it's archived. It starts here: > > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/quic/AQM3or1TNnInYhWe8UEx5B6nrgw/ <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/quic/AQM3or1TNnInYhWe8UEx5B6nrgw/> > > I believe the conclusion was that we would use 0x00000001/h3 as soon as QUIC RFCs shipped, before H3 RFCs shipped. That certainly seems to be the most reasonable path, to me. Best, Tommy > > On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 7:22 AM David Schinazi <dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com <mailto:dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com>> wrote: > Google's implementation uses a 1:1 mapping between > an h3 ALPN and a QUIC version. Because of this, when > we ship QUIC 0x00000001, it'll be with ALPN=h3. > > Our code supports v1/h3 already, but v1/h3 is disabled by default. > We'd like to align with everyone to pick a date when we start > enabling v1/h3 in production though. > > From the conversations I've had, I think everyone agrees that > when draft-ietf-quic-http ships as RFC, everyone will be allowed > to ship v1/h3. I think everyone also agrees that we shouldn't do > that before draft-ietf-quic-transport ships as RFC. > > The open question is: do we wait for draft-ietf-quic-http or do we > move forward when draft-ietf-quic-transport ships? > > David > > On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 4:04 PM Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com <mailto:martin.h.duke@gmail.com>> wrote: > QUIC, sorry the confusion. The original message in this thread included HTTPbis, and you should reply to that one to keep everyone in the loop. > > On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 3:59 PM Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com <mailto:martin.h.duke@gmail.com>> wrote: > Damn it, wrong http > > On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 3:40 PM Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com <mailto:martin.h.duke@gmail.com>> wrote: > In the quicdev slack channel today, we realized that we had a disconnect on what ALPN to use in the interval between the QUIC RFCs publishing and the HTTP/3 RFCs being ready (due to a MISREF with http-semantics, etc). > > It's lost in the slack archives now, but I *think* we had concluded that once the QUIC RFCs ship the endpoints should use 0x00000001/h3, not h3-29 or h3-32, because the chance of something in http-semantics breaking interoperability was nil. I personally don't really care how we converge, as long as we converge. > > To summarize the choices, in the ~months between the RFCs, are endpoints doing a QUIC version + ALPN of > 1) 0x00000001/h3 or > 2) 0x00000001/h3-xx > > Can we come to an agreement on this point? > > Martin
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