- From: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 14:06:16 +1100
- To: HTTP Working Group <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>
- Cc: "Bavitz, Christopher" <cbavitz@law.harvard.edu>, Lumen Team <team@lumendatabase.org>
Forwarding, as it appears to be stuck in moderation. > On 17 Nov 2020, at 2:08 am, Lumen Team <team@lumendatabase.org> wrote: > > Hello, Mark and other WG participants. > > My name is Adam Holland, and I’m the project manager for the Lumen database at Harvard’s Berkman Klein Center for Internet & Society. > www.lumendatabase.org > (conceived and founded by W3C’s Wendy Seltzer) > > For those of you unfamiliar, Lumen is a database of requests to remove material from the web – most of them formally legal, like DMCAs and court orders. > The 451 response is therefore one we’re quite interested in. > > We’d like to suggest the possibility that a 451 response, where possible, could be encouraged to include a link outward to the text of the legal request that prompted the block or removal. > Ideally, that copy would exist in Lumen’s database, but what’s important is that it be available somewhere for researchers to study. > In the past few years, we have had some excellent work done with Lumen’s aggregations of removal requests, and this seems like it could be a fantastic way to facilitate more. > > While we completely understand the potential obstacles that might arise in recipients sharing what could be a sensitive legal request, our experience has been that those can for the most part be surmounted with judicious redaction, and that some additional information is always better than none. > > This is just a short response to the list to prompt further discussion, we would be glad to get into more details as appropriate or write up something more formal. > > Please let us know. > > > Sincerely, > > Adam and the Lumen Team -- Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/
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