- From: Kari hurtta <hurtta-ietf@elmme-mailer.org>
- Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 21:58:05 +0300 (EEST)
- To: Ilari Liusvaara <ilariliusvaara@welho.com>
- CC: "Walter H." <Walter.H@mathemainzel.info>, Kari hurtta <hurtta-ietf@elmme-mailer.org>, HTTP working group mailing list <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/ietf-http-wg/2016JulSep/0393.html
| And for http://, yes, the page will be displayed in browsers,
| but authority of response will be misinterpretted, creating other
| problems. In non-browsers, this can really create a mess.
application/proxy-explanation+json does not necessary work for
http://
https://mnot.github.io/I-D/proxy-explanation/#rfc.section.4
| They can be mitigated in a few ways:
|
| ∙ Not displaying the moreinfo member in situations
| when this is possible (i.e., on any response other
| than that to a CONNECT on an encrypted connection).
|
| ∙ Not supporting the
| application/proxy-connection+json media type when the
| method is not CONNECT and the connection is not
| encrypted.
|
| ∙ Cautioning the user that the content might not be
| trustworthy.
I has some suggestions with that
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/ietf-http-wg/2016JanMar/0303.html
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/ietf-http-wg/2016JanMar/0306.html
But because Connection: seems not be implemented, this does not really
work.
/ Kari Hurtta
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Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 07:08:46 +0200 (EET)
From: Kari Hurtta <hurtta-ietf@elmme-mailer.org>
Thomas Mangin <thomas.mangin@exa-networks.co.uk>: (Tue Mar 1 17:32:22 2016)
>>> Otherwise when browser is configured to use proxy and
>>> URL is http, browser do not use CONNECT but original
>>> http -method (GET and so on). Given url just is
>>> absolute.
>
> Client implementations are able to use CONNECT when requesting HTTP
> through a proxy but the major implementations choose not to do so.
> Changing this behaviour is probably inadvisable as current proxies will
> most likely simply drop the connection when getting a CONNECT message
> for HTTP page.
>
> And while the feature is most useful for CONNECT with HTTPS, and while
> it is likely that some proxies will continue to prefer ‘branded’
> HTML pages, allowing the use of this answer on non CONNECT request may
> also hold value as promoting homogeneity to the user experience between
> HTTP and HTTPS.
>
> Thomas
https://mnot.github.io/I-D/proxy-explanation/
| This approach does not preclude an origin server presenting itself as a
| the proxy, in cases where the client supports the
| media type on requests other than CONNECT.
If homogeneity of the user experience is desired (as I suggested)
and there is need for avoid origin server presenting itself
as a proxy (for example when request method was GET), there
is possibility to use nonce.
This is perhaps overengineering here:
Register new header field for that nonce.
Browser may include that on request when it is using proxy:
New-header-field: nonce-value
Connection: new-header-field
Connection header field prevents origin server seeing
this (if proxy follows HTTP/1.1 -- I do not know how
this play with HTTP/2, but HTTP/2 is likely to be used
only with encrypted connections / with CONNECT method. )
Given nonce-value can be included to application/proxy-explanation+json
as own member.
( Header field name should be something short like
'proxy-nonce', I think. )
| Clients SHOULD indicate that they support this media type by including it
| in the field-value of the Accept request header
| field [RFC7231] of all supported requests.
To reduce fingerprinting and request size, browser probably use just */* as
Accept -header value.
( I notice that also this new nonce header field ('proxy-nonce' for example)
may work as indicator that application/proxy-explanation+json is supported
by browser. )
/ Kari Hurtta
Received on Sunday, 7 August 2016 20:12:37 UTC