Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem

On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp <>

> In message <CABaLYCs4a=
> , Mike Belshe writes:
> >We learned that transport
> >protocols had an upgrade problem, but application protocols did not.
> So why is FF and Chromium not supporting Upgrade: ?

This has all been hashed out before.

> >So we should all feel great about this - multiplexed streams were trapped
> >for over a decade inside SCTP, and h2 is finally unlocking it for http.
> > This is a huge learn-from-history victory.
> That is very much a matter of perspective.
> Taking the fight and using HTTP to push SCTP adoption, would have given
> us so much more than than the current drafts erzats-framing does.

Again, this has all been hashed out.  Read my presentations from 4 yrs ago
to learn why this would not have worked.  I don't have time to go back to
remedial basics with you over and over again.


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