Re: Padding for PUSH_PROMISE frames

Yup. Padding should be on any frame including a headers block, plus the
data frame.
-=R


On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Nicholas Hurley <hurley@todesschaf.org>wrote:

> I thought about adding padding to everything, but like Roberto said, it
> gets even trickier to do correctly (i.e., without messing up the security
> properties), and it seems a little silly to me to add padding to a frame
> that has a constant size. Adding it to PUSH_PROMISE, though, allows hiding
> the true size of the promised headers, and makea processing of both that
> and HEADERS frames almost the same, conceivably simplifying  implementation.
> I can see an argument for it but... meh. Padding is not a security feature
> unless it is used right. Adding it everywhere doesn't really help that, and
> opens up stuff even wider for abuse in the myriad cases where it has no
> real security benefit.
>
> -=R
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 9:39 PM, Jeff Pinner <jpinner@twitter.com> wrote:
>
>> Should we consider adding padding to all frames?
>>
>> We have two bits reserved at the beginning of the length field that we
>> could use for the two padding flags, independent of frame type.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Nicholas Hurley <hurley@todesschaf.org>wrote:
>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> Right now (as of draft-10), DATA, HEADERS, and CONTINUATION frames can
>>> contain padding to obscure the actual size of the data being sent. I
>>> believe it would make sense to also add the option for padding to
>>> PUSH_PROMISE frames, as they carry (pretty much) the same type of payload
>>> as HEADERS frames, and can benefit from padding in the same way.
>>>
>>> I can make a pull request if others think this is a good idea.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>> -Nick
>>>
>>
>>
>

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