- From: David Morris <dwm@xpasc.com>
- Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 14:21:35 -0800 (PST)
- To: Mike Belshe <mike@belshe.com>
- cc: Amos Jeffries <squid3@treenet.co.nz>, httpbis mailing list <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>
But ping as a quasi english word is descriptive of the operation so the interpretation isn't needed. On Mon, 27 Jan 2014, Mike Belshe wrote: > My guess is that this is a joke that will be reverted. > > > > On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Amos Jeffries <squid3@treenet.co.nz> wrote: > > > Did anyone complaining actually read the updated text? > > > > "6.8 GTFO > > > > ... General Termination of Future Operations ..." > > > > Amos, you're like the Dad in Modern Family who thinks "WTF" is "Why The > Face?" > > But there are no other frame types which are acronyms like this (except for > PING == "Please Indicate Not Gone"). > > Mike > > > Anyhow, > > > > NIT: > > The intro wording to that explanation seems to be quite unaligned with > > the intro wording for the other frames and obscures interpretation of the > > acronym. Perhapse the editors should re-write it like so: > > "A General Termination of Future Operations (GTFO) frame (type=0x7) > > informs the remote peer to stop creating streams on this connection." > > > > 2) The "future operations" appears to be redundant behind "terminate". > > Perhapse it should just be named GENERAL_TERMINATE. > > > > > > BUG #1: > > I am noticing a discontinuity in the textual description of the frame: > > > > "the GTFO contains the stream identifier of the last stream which was > > processed on the sending endpoint in this connection. If the receiver of > > the GTFO used streams that are newer than the indicated stream identifier, > > they were not processed by the sender and the receiver may treat the > > streams as though they had never been created at all" ... > > > > ... "An endpoint MUST treat a GTFO frame with a stream identifier other > > than 0x0 as a connection error ..." > > > > These appear to be mutually exclusive conditions on the use of stream-ID > > for that frame. If implementations follows the MUST condition there is > > nothing graceful about the closure or usefully done with the stream-ID. > > > > > > BUG #2: > > From a state management perspective it is not clear what the recipient of > > these frames is being informed about. ie what should be done in the case > > where multiple streams are underway when GTFO is sent with a stream-ID. > > > > * Should that be the last/highest completed stream-ID? if so, what > > happens to incomplete streams with numerically lower ID? > > > > * Should it be the stream-ID before the oldest incomplete stream? if so, > > what happens to all the partially handled and complete streams with > > numerically higher IDs? > > > > * Should it be the stream-ID of the last frame processed? if so, what is > > it actually telling the remote endpoint? > > > > Going by the text interpretation I would expect the frame to have a > > stream-ID of 0x0 and a *payload* containing a *list* of the stream-IDs > > which are currently being processed (or relayed in the case of middleware). > > Such that the frame is marked as flow control and recipient can clearly > > identify fully which streams must be completed and which can be re-tried > > elsewhere. > > > > Amos > > > > >
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