- From: Jason Greene <jason.greene@redhat.com>
- Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 15:30:35 -0500
- To: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
- Cc: Patrick McManus <pmcmanus@mozilla.com>, Nicholas Hurley <hurley@todesschaf.org>, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>, "K.Morgan@iaea.org" <K.Morgan@iaea.org>, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>, Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>, Greg Wilkins <gregw@intalio.com>, IETF HTTP WG <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>, Martin Dürst <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>
On Jun 25, 2014, at 3:00 PM, Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> wrote: > On 25 June 2014 12:30, Patrick McManus <pmcmanus@mozilla.com> wrote: >> I don't think that's the case at all. un-acked extensions are limited that >> way because you can't change the semantics of the protocol.. but once you >> ack something you can do anything you like - including changing framing to >> look like websockets via use one of the R bits (as an example). Go bootstrap >> h3 that way if you feel so inclined to write an extension like that. >> >> but maybe I have that wrong -(our extension text is brand new afterall) and >> extensions are meant to preclude such hackery which seems odd - given they >> are essentially a hackery escape hatch that already acknowledges the ability >> to change semantics of existing elements. If that's true there is always the >> alpn method of proving this can work - because I really don't think it can >> work and leave h2 responsive. > > You have it right. Once you get mutual agreement to use an extension, > that extension only needs to worry about the synchronization point at > which you change anything and everything. Here's a basic strawman: > > New setting X, 0 = off (initial), 1 = on. Once a setting has been set > to "on" on both sides and been acknowledged, you can enable the use of > the reserved bits, exactly as PHK has described. If a peer uses the > extension prior to both acknowledging the settings and sending their > own setting enabling the setting, you are entitled to treat that as an > error. That wasn’t clear to me in the text, thank you for clarifying the intention. -- Jason T. Greene WildFly Lead / JBoss EAP Platform Architect JBoss, a division of Red Hat
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