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Re: HTTP/2 vs. proxies ?

From: Adrien de Croy <adrien@qbik.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 22:39:53 +0000
To: "bizzbyster@gmail.com" <bizzbyster@gmail.com>, "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>
Cc: "HTTP Working Group" <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>
Message-Id: <em4b259d02-c618-40fb-8f51-c051f8dc0387@bodybag>

I know a lot of organisations that will just block anything they cannot 

So to consider it viable that there be no room for forward proxies in 
the internet of the future is a position that is not particularly 
well-connected with reality.

All the move to TLS did was promote the deployment of MiTM, and slow 
things down quite a bit.

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From: "bizzbyster@gmail.com" <bizzbyster@gmail.com>
To: "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>
Cc: "HTTP Working Group" <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>
Sent: 24/06/2014 9:33:42 a.m.
Subject: Re: HTTP/2 vs. proxies ?

>For encrypted traffic, forward proxies are functionally bypassed and 
>most HTTP/2 traffic will be encrypted. When they do see the rare 
>plaintext attempt to upgrade to HTTP/2, proxies can simply strip the 
>header and prevent it. Therefore proxies have little motivation to 
>implement it. HTTP/2 with mandatory TLS (the Google and Mozilla 
>position) is an attempt to obsolete forward proxies, which explains why 
>lack of proxy support in HTTP/2.0 is not a blocking issue to go to last 
>On Jun 21, 2014, at 12:52 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> 
>>  In message 
>>  , Martin Thomson writes:
>>>  We killed it so that we could avoid having to talk about it any 
>>>  That worked out well, didn't it?
>>  I'm increasingly getting the feeling that we have people who like
>>  the HTTP/2.0 draft and people who work with proxies, and that those
>>  two sets are almost exclusive ?
>>  I would be interesting to see what a straw-poll of these two
>>  questions would show:
>>  A) I think HTTP/2.0 is ready for last call YES/NO
>>  B) My primary HTTP/2.0 interest is proxy technology YES/NO
>>  --
>>  Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20
>>  phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956
>>  FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe
>>  Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by 
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