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RE: #466 segment compression

From: <K.Morgan@iaea.org>
Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 07:54:57 +0000
To: <jgraettinger@chromium.org>
CC: <grmocg@gmail.com>, <matthew@kerwin.net.au>, <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>, <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0356EBBE092D394F9291DA01E8D28EC20112987971@sem001pd.sg.iaea.org>
On Friday,02 May 2014 05:13, jgraettinger@google.com<mailto:jgraettinger@google.com> wrote:

> The HTTP/1.1 pipelined case is equivalent to using MAX_CONCURRENT_STREAMS of 1.

> That also guarantees a single compression context. Many HTTP/2 implementations are

> likely willing to deal with N > 1 simultaneous compression contexts in exchange for better

> compression, so long as they can dictate the upper bound (and indeed they can).



Agreed.  Just to be clear, you're saying you disagree with what Roberto said (see below) that to bound the state/memory requirements a server would have to disable multiplexing?



*You can't claim it's a problem for T-E and then out of the other side of your mouth say it's not a problem for dynamic C-E.*





On Tuesday,29 April 2014 21:58, grmocg@gmail.com<mailto:grmocg@gmail.com> wrote:

> If compression is per-segment as opposed to per-frame

>    AND we wish to restrict the amount of state the server must keep around

>    AND the sender wishes to have all the data in the segment compressed

>   THEN then the segment being compressed must be sent in its entirety in a contiguous series of frames with no muxing of other streams in the middle.

>

> If one doesn't do this, then the server is forced to retain this state indefinitely, though the client is allowed to make progress on other streams.

> This likely masks the consumption of server-state from the user, and also denies the user(and client) the ability to do compression for any other stream.

>

> If one does this, then one effectively loses the multiplexing feature of the protocol.

>

> Arguably, this is worse than simply doing per-frame compression, especially when on considers that with relatively decent frame sizes, the marginal benefit

> of continuing the compression context across frames is likely small.





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