- From: Peter Lepeska <bizzbyster@gmail.com>
- Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 10:49:20 -0500
- To: HTTP Working Group <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>
+1 On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 6:11 PM, David Morris <dwm@xpasc.com> wrote: > > Removing the implementation of the header compression will simplify the > minimal implementation of HTTP/2. Requiring support of the static table > increase complexity. Worse is the RST rain dance you describe as that > is essentially a hack adding complexity and increasing the probablility > of failure. > > It at least partially makes any performance evaluations or other testing > attempts burdened with the overhead of opting out and perhaps introducing > additional failure points in the RST process. Certainly, if I as a > developer or system admin suspect an issue with header integrity, I can't > perform true isolation by turning off compression. > > > On Thu, 12 Dec 2013, Roberto Peon wrote: > >> These things are all possible with ALPN. >> There has been a proposal w.r.t. setting the default compression context >> size to zero, but I don't think there was a lot of support for that. >> ... which, honestly, is reasonable if a shade disappointing: One can RST >> the streams one doesn't like and wait for one RT for the setting of the >> compression context size to occur at the remote end. >> >> Alternate compression schemes are also doable via ALPN. >> >> If you don't want to handle compression you: >> 1) Send a SETTINGS frame requesting that the receive side-context be sized >> to zero. >> 2) RST all streams that would store state in the compression context until >> you receive the acknowledgement that this has occurred from the remote side. >> 3) Proceed normally to handle stuff with zero context size. >> >> While not optimal in the DoS case, it certainly would be difficult to argue >> it doesn't work. >> In the non-DoS case, you end up wasting an RT and a few bytes. I'd imagine >> that much of the time when someone is interacting with such a low-footprint >> thing that either the additional RT of delay isn't a big deal. >> >> I don't think it is too much to ask people to handle the static table (it >> really is just a lookup into an array at that point) or huffman stuff. >> -=R >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 10:19 AM, David Morris <dwm@xpasc.com> wrote: >> >> > >> > I agree ... being able to disable compression is an important >> > complexity reduction for low foot print clients and/or servers. >> > >> > I think it is also a very useful capability in support of general >> > testing and performance evaluation. >> > >> > I'd also like so see an explicit mechanism for specification of >> > an alternate compression algorithm .. I think it is way to early >> > to lock down a specific approach and it would be very powerful to >> > allow easy deployement of an alternative. >> > >> > On Thu, 12 Dec 2013, Peter Lepeska wrote: >> > >> > > Thanks for the quick replies. >> > > >> > > So just in summary, in the current spec compression is the choice of >> > > the sender but receivers always must support decompression. >> > > >> > > It would be nice to have just a nice clean DISABLE_COMPRESSION in the >> > > SETTINGS frame so that receivers do not need to support decompression. >> > > Has that been discussed? I know there is a concern of cluttering up >> > > SETTINGS, but this seems like an important option. >> > > >> > > Peter >> > > >> > > On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> >> > wrote: >> > > > Peter, >> > > > >> > > > You can't disable it but you can always just send literal values. The >> > > > kicker, of course, is that you will still need to support >> > decompression... >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > On Dec 12, 2013, at 11:50 AM, Peter Lepeska <bizzbyster@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > Is it possible for a browser, proxy, or web server to disable header >> > > > compression in HTTP2? If not, I'm sure there was discussion around this >> > > > decision but my search of the archives has not come up with anything. >> > > > >> > > > Thanks, >> > > > >> > > > Peter >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > _________________________________________________________ >> > > > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >
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