Re: Call for Proposals re: #314 HTTP2 and http:// URIs on the "open" internet

Yoav,

On Nov 20, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Yoav Nir <synp71@live.com> wrote:
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> That info will be interesting. I worry, though, that it's a huge undertaking to get a complete picture because of the long tail.

I’m less concerned about getting a 100% complete picture and more wanting to get a general picture based on proxies that are popular and/or known to have issues.

I am under no illusion (delusion? :) that we will be able to do HTTP/2.0 upgrade over current proxies.

Rather, I want to know whether a HTTP/2.0 client can successfully continue to function with HTTP/1.1 proxies - can we reliably either a) know that we can attempt an upgrade or b) recover from a failed upgrade?

Answering those questions will determine whether it is feasible to support plain text HTTP/2.0 on port 80 and/or whether we would really need a new URI scheme to differentiate between HTTP/1.x and HTTP/2.0.  I’m hopeful that the answer is actually *yes* since the “failure” mode for HTTP/2.0 upgrades is just using HTTP/1.1, vs. WebSockets and other similar extensions that rely on upgrade to work at all.

In short (and I apologize for paraphrasing): Failure IS an option.  We just need to know *how* HTTP/2.0 upgrade will fail to determine if it would prevent implementors from supporting plain text HTTP/2.0 over the Internet.

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Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair

Received on Wednesday, 20 November 2013 20:13:03 UTC