- From: Adrien de Croy <adrien@qbik.com>
- Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 23:40:40 +0000
- To: "Bruce Perens" <bruce@perens.com>, "ietf-http-wg@w3.org" <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>
- Message-Id: <ema0f04a63-52ee-44e5-8cb3-e996aad30052@bodybag>
+1 Is anyone here from RIM? It would be interesting to get their perspective on this, having lived it in India. Adrien ------ Original Message ------ From: "Bruce Perens" <bruce@perens.com> To: "ietf-http-wg@w3.org" <ietf-http-wg@w3.org> Sent: 18/11/2013 10:26:21 a.m. Subject: Re: Pervasive encryption: Pro and contra >On 11/17/2013 01:07 PM, Mike Belshe wrote: >> >>Someone added a "con" to the list that it is somehow unethical to use >>TLS. >Not unethical to use it where appropriate. Both unethical and >ultimately damaging to society to use it when it isn't strictly >necessary. To do so: > >* Ultimately damages the operation of the internet by making caching >and other legitimate manipulations of HTTP impossible. >* Reduces the freedom of people to control their own networks in the >face of possibly-hostile applications in their own devices, by chaffing >their private networks. >* Makes more difficult the job of police and intelligence agencies that >have an actual responsibility to protect us. > >The problem of surveilance is a political one, and should be dealt with >politically. For us to make the job of police and intelligence agencies >more difficult arbitrarily and without any _public_ mandate to do so >is, I think, on a range between immature and criminal. > >But, you say, you're just trying to protect people! It's not that easy. > >Folks, whether we technically enable inappropriate use of surveilance >or hinder appropriate use of surveilance, we end up with blood on our >hands either way. If we are not involved in the _political_ process >around this issue, and do not work to find a balance there, we have >little to excuse us. > > Thanks > > Bruce
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