Re: Fwd: IPR Disclosure: Microsoft Corporation's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-httpbis-http2-04

     It would help if the document (template) actually explained exactly 
what you said.

Gili

On 10/07/2013 12:02 PM, Mike Belshe wrote:
> No, this is standard.  The lawyers are saying, "we're not sure if you 
> do infringe on any of our IP, but if you do, we license it to you 
> under these terms."
>
> The Google IPR is effectively the same, although a little easier for 
> mere mortals (e.g. non-lawyers) to read.  Google references 
> yet-unpublished patents, but licenses them anyway.
>
> Google's disclosure: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1692/
>
> Also, in the prior disclosure from Microsoft, they did reference two 
> patents. https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1737/  I do not know if 
> HTTP/2 overlaps with these patents.
>
> Be grateful they are licensing it to all of us, even if you don't like 
> the process.  The terms are ok.
>
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> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 2:58 AM, Adrien W. de Croy <adrien@qbik.com 
> <mailto:adrien@qbik.com>> wrote:
>
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>     That link seems to be missing the patent disclosure, and only
>     contains some proposed licensing terms for something which is not
>     specified. Is that intentionally omitted, or will that information
>     be following?
>
>     Regards
>
>     Adrien
>
>
>
>     ------ Original Message ------
>     From: "Mark Nottingham" <mnot@mnot.net <mailto:mnot@mnot.net>>
>     To: "HTTP Working Group" <ietf-http-wg@w3.org
>     <mailto:ietf-http-wg@w3.org>>
>     Sent: 10/07/2013 5:17:18 p.m.
>     Subject: Fwd: IPR Disclosure: Microsoft Corporation's Statement
>     about IPR related to draft-ietf-httpbis-http2-04
>
>         FYI - Microsoft has made a patent disclosure and nominated
>         licensing terms, as per the link below.
>
>         If anyone else has a patent in the works, or is aware of IPR
>         that is relevant, it's appropriate to disclose (and in some
>         circumstances, is required).
>
>         Regards,
>
>
>
>         Begin forwarded message:
>
>              From: IETF Secretariat <ietf-ipr@ietf.org
>             <mailto:ietf-ipr@ietf.org>>
>              Subject: IPR Disclosure: Microsoft Corporation's
>             Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-httpbis-http2-04
>              Date: 10 July 2013 3:20:27 AM AEST
>              To: mbelshe@chromium.org <mailto:mbelshe@chromium.org>,
>             fenix@google.com <mailto:fenix@google.com>,
>             martin.thomson@skype.net
>             <mailto:martin.thomson@skype.net>,
>             alexey.melnikov@isode.com <mailto:alexey.melnikov@isode.com>
>              Cc: presnick@qti.qualcomm.com
>             <mailto:presnick@qti.qualcomm.com>,
>             barryleiba@computer.org <mailto:barryleiba@computer.org>,
>             mnot@pobox.com <mailto:mnot@pobox.com>,
>             ietf-http-wg@w3.org <mailto:ietf-http-wg@w3.org>,
>             ipr-announce@ietf.org <mailto:ipr-announce@ietf.org>
>
>
>              Dear Mike Belshe, Roberto Peon, Martin Thomson, Alexey
>             Melnikov:
>
>              An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft
>             entitled "Hypertext
>              Transfer Protocol version 2.0" (draft-ietf-httpbis-http2)
>             was submitted to the
>              IETF Secretariat on 2013-07-09 and has been posted on the
>             "IETF Page of
>              Intellectual Property Rights Disclosures"
>              (https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2122/). The title of
>             the IPR disclosure is
>              "Microsoft Corporation's Statement about IPR related to
>             draft-ietf-httpbis-
>              http2-04."");
>
>              The IETF Secretariat
>
>
>         --
>         Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/
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