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Re: Fwd: IPR Disclosure: Microsoft Corporation's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-httpbis-http2-04

From: Mike Belshe <mike@belshe.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 09:02:45 -0700
Message-ID: <CABaLYCuC0+UZiMu9TV6nUp6JfPc9EnAmjVk4A0V2yv5MpfvmdQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Adrien W. de Croy" <adrien@qbik.com>
Cc: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>, HTTP Working Group <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>
No, this is standard.  The lawyers are saying, "we're not sure if you do
infringe on any of our IP, but if you do, we license it to you under these
terms."

The Google IPR is effectively the same, although a little easier for mere
mortals (e.g. non-lawyers) to read.  Google references yet-unpublished
patents, but licenses them anyway.

Google's disclosure:  https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1692/

Also, in the prior disclosure from Microsoft, they did reference two
patents.  https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1737/  I do not know if HTTP/2
overlaps with these patents.

Be grateful they are licensing it to all of us, even if you don't like the
process.  The terms are ok.



On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 2:58 AM, Adrien W. de Croy <adrien@qbik.com> wrote:

>
> That link seems to be missing the patent disclosure, and only contains
> some proposed licensing terms for something which is not specified. Is that
> intentionally omitted, or will that information be following?
>
> Regards
>
> Adrien
>
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Mark Nottingham" <mnot@mnot.net>
> To: "HTTP Working Group" <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>
> Sent: 10/07/2013 5:17:18 p.m.
> Subject: Fwd: IPR Disclosure: Microsoft Corporation's Statement about IPR
> related to draft-ietf-httpbis-http2-04
>
>> FYI - Microsoft has made a patent disclosure and nominated licensing
>> terms, as per the link below.
>>
>> If anyone else has a patent in the works, or is aware of IPR that is
>> relevant, it's appropriate to disclose (and in some circumstances, is
>> required).
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>   From: IETF Secretariat <ietf-ipr@ietf.org>
>>>  Subject: IPR Disclosure: Microsoft Corporation's Statement about IPR
>>> related to draft-ietf-httpbis-http2-04
>>>  Date: 10 July 2013 3:20:27 AM AEST
>>>  To: mbelshe@chromium.org, fenix@google.com, martin.thomson@skype.net,
>>> alexey.melnikov@isode.com
>>>  Cc: presnick@qti.qualcomm.com, barryleiba@computer.org, mnot@pobox.com,
>>> ietf-http-wg@w3.org, ipr-announce@ietf.org
>>>
>>>
>>>  Dear Mike Belshe, Roberto Peon, Martin Thomson, Alexey Melnikov:
>>>
>>>  An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft entitled
>>> "Hypertext
>>>  Transfer Protocol version 2.0" (draft-ietf-httpbis-http2) was submitted
>>> to the
>>>  IETF Secretariat on 2013-07-09 and has been posted on the "IETF Page of
>>>  Intellectual Property Rights Disclosures"
>>>  (https://datatracker.ietf.org/**ipr/2122/<https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2122/>).
>>> The title of the IPR disclosure is
>>>  "Microsoft Corporation's Statement about IPR related to
>>> draft-ietf-httpbis-
>>>  http2-04."");
>>>
>>>  The IETF Secretariat
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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