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From: "James M Snell" <jasnell@gmail.com>
>+1.. in fact, for 2.0, I'd very much like to get rid of q-values
>entirely and depend entirely on order.
>
same here.
The idea may have been laudable in 1998, but really, how can a web
server tell if some resource is 80% better than another? A human needs
to tell it, and humans have enough trouble with other things.
the q=0 option would need to be turned into a Naccept-* header or
something. But does anyone even use it outside of testing for 406
responses which never come?
>
>On Jan 20, 2013 1:54 PM, "Mark Nottingham" <mnot@mnot.net> wrote:
>>
>>On 20/01/2013, at 11:52 PM, Roy T. Fielding <fielding@gbiv.com> wrote:
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>> > On Jan 19, 2013, at 6:34 PM, Mark Nottingham wrote:
>> >
>> >> Julian et al,
>> >>
>> >> I think the important bit here is the context that we're talking
>>about the semantics of an expressed preference -- which can be freely
>>ignored, or selectively applied, without affecting conformance. The
>>important thing is that the preference itself have clear semantics,
>>which I think Roy's change does (especially in concert with changes
>>elsewhere).
>> >>
>> >> As such, I think the relevant question is whether this is specific
>>to A-L, or all A-* that take qvalues. Roy, thoughts?
>> >
>> > I am pretty sure it is specific to languages. Accept has never been
>> > treated as an ordered list, Accept-Encoding was originally designed
>> > to prefer the smallest representation (changing that to qvalues was
>> > unfortunate), and Accept-Charset is almost deprecated at this point.
>>
>>
>>So, wouldn't the same arguments (minus the implementation status)
>>apply to Accept?
>>
>>I.e., if it's just a preference, and the server is free to choose
>>among the preferences anyway (or even ignore them), why *not* say
>>Accept is ordered?
>>
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>>--
>>Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/
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