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Re: HTTP/2 Expression of luke-warm interest: Varnish

From: Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:04:57 +0000
To: Roberto Peon <grmocg@gmail.com>
cc: HTTP Working Group <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>, Brian Pane <brianp@brianp.net>
Message-ID: <62783.1342515897@critter.freebsd.dk>
In message <CAP+FsNetP9uhjrNXwXkJgZNGXMbbj0U8WfJfbyHK6jBF0TnKrw@mail.gmail.com>
, Roberto Peon writes:

>The holdup is that users have bookmarks, external links, etc. and so sites
>are reasonably reluctant to change their (unfortunately complex and
>potentially order dependent rule) mappings when doing so might lose them

Fortunately 1Tbit/s isn't going to happen over night either.

>It gets worse when one considers pieces of hardware which are not
>upgradable and have url-space hardwired into their firmware. 

I don't think there is any realistic prospect of retiring HTTP/1.x
entirely in the next 10 years.   In 15 years maybe.

But if we do HTTP/2 right, the amount of traffic left on HTTP/1.x
would be cut in half about three years after HTTP/2.0 ratification.

If we do a good job, in particular on HTTP/1->HTTP/2 connection
upgrades, it will happen even sooner than that.

>Any ideas as to how to reprogram site designers/authors? :)

Is it important or even necessary to do so ?

If they work for a site where performance matters, there will
be a local feedback loop to steer them in the right direction.

If they work a place where performance doesn't matter, they would
be wasting time by optimizing for performance in the first place.

But delivering a simpler to understand protocol would certainly
help, for instance many webdesigners have only very sketchy ideas
about how cookies and authentication actually work.

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