- From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im>
- Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:23:40 -0600
- To: Kris Zyp <kris@sitepen.com>
- CC: Sam Johnston <samj@samj.net>, Jan Algermissen <algermissen1971@mac.com>, jpanzer@acm.org, Lisa Dusseault <lisa.dusseault@gmail.com>, Atom-Syntax Syntax <atom-syntax@imc.org>, ietf-http-wg@w3.org, Adam Strum <adam@nostrum.com>
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 9/11/09 10:52 AM, Kris Zyp wrote: > > Sam Johnston wrote: > >> Well spotted. For me to "monitor" or "watch" something requires >> conscious, ongoing effort by the client. The dictionary definition >> <http://www.google.fr/search?q=define:monitor> supports this: >> '/keep tabs on; keep an eye on; keep under surveillance; "we are >> monitoring the air quality"; "the police monitor the suspect's >> moves"/'. It's a nitpick but I wonder if there are use cases for a >> "monitoring" interface (e.g. for polling) - for example a site >> offering a link that an uptime monitoring service could use to to >> test the various subsystems, or an actual monitoring service? > >> OTOH terms like "notify" and "push" imply a passive rather than >> active role for the client ("update" is out because it can be >> confused with "edit" - in that the resource itself is being >> updated). > But SIP is not a polling protocol is it? Is there something about SIP > that is more "monitor-ish" than pubsubhubbub that necessitates a new > relation name? And if so, how do I determine which relation name > should be used for servers that connect to Dojo clients to send > notifications? The 'rel' says only "this is the kind of place where you can receive notifications about changes to the resource". That doesn't say *how* you receive those notifications. If the URI is sip:foo then perhaps you need to poll. If it's xmpp:bar then perhaps you receive pushes. But the "how" doesn't change the fact that this is where you can get notifications. Peter - -- Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkqqh5wACgkQNL8k5A2w/vwo/wCgpeN4bAidIv9zMU0O6Zo/q6P9 O+sAoItSWp5s+xtWkNDNAiD+tJl6nvys =Pm91 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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