- From: Anthony Bryan <anthonybryan@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:28:55 -0400
- To: Henrik Nordstrom <henrik@henriknordstrom.net>
- Cc: HTTP Working Group <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Henrik Nordstrom<henrik@henriknordstrom.net> wrote: > This draft made a bit of surprise appearance in the transport area > meeting today: > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ford-http-multi-server > > My initial reaction is lots of obvious overlap with other work and > misunderstandings of basic HTTP functions like ETag. > > Basic motivation behind the work may be reasonable however. > > I will try to catch the author for a more in-depth discussion shortly. > > Other opinions? Very interesting, thanks for writing about this Henrik. I hadn't seen or heard of it. For those unfamiliar with Metalink, we offer solutions to the same problems (and more) in an XML format, as opposed to HTTP extensions. So I'm interested in what people think about it, criticism, ideas, etc because it may allow us to improve what we are doing. We're also seeking review for our Internet Draft at http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bryan-metalink If anyone is interested in trying Metalink out, a good amount of software is available, in the form of download managers (most popular ones), Firefox extensions, command line clients, and browser. While many Metalink clients, especially download managers, download simultaneously from multiple mirrors, it's really about giving alternate locations for a download to complete (if a server goes down) and also repairing downloads. Information about mirrors like location and priority can also be included. Projects like cURL, OpenOffice.org, and most Linux distributions use Metalinks for downloads, especially for large files. More info here: http://www.metalinker.org/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metalink Here's the intro from draft-ford-http-multi-server-00: "1. Introduction and Motivation Mirrored HTTP servers are regularly used for software downloads, whereby copies of data to be downloaded are duplicated on many servers distributed around the Internet. Users are encouraged to manually choose a nearby mirror from which to download. This is intended to increase both throughput and resilience, and reduce load on individual servers. Manual mirror choice rarely works well; users do not wish to make a choice, but if they are not forced to, then the default server takes a disproportionate share of the load. Even when they are forced to choose, they rarely have enough information to choose the server that will provide the best performance. Some popular sites automate this process using DNS load balancing, both to approximately balance load between servers, and to direct clients to nearby servers with the hope that this improves throughput. Indeed, DNS load balancing can balance long-term server load fairly effectively, but it is less effective at delivering the best throughput to users when the bottleneck is not the server but the network. This document specifies an alternative mechanism by which the benefit of mirrors can be automatically and more efficiently realised. These benefits are achieved using a number of extensions to HTTP which allow the discovery of mirrors, the verification of the integrity of files on each mirror, and the simultaneous downloading of chunks from multiple mirrors. The use of this mechanism allows greater efficiency in resource utilisation in the Internet as a whole, balances server utilization, even on short timescales, and enhances user experience through faster downloads." -- (( Anthony Bryan ... Metalink [ http://www.metalinker.org ] )) Easier, More Reliable, Self Healing Downloads
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