- From: Tyler Close <tyler.close@gmail.com>
- Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:22:27 -0700
- To: ietf-http-wg@w3.org
- Cc: Vincent Murphy <vdm@vdm.ie>, Mark Miller <erights@gmail.com>
It looks like discussion of this proposal has died off, but I want to record a strong objection in case it hasn't, or comes back. The current restrictions on the Referer header are crucial to enabling the use of capability-based security on the Web. A URL can be used as a capability by including an unguessable secret. This secret ensures that the corresponding resource can only be accessed by agents that have been explicitly told the secret. The only viable way to implement this in HTTP, is to put the secret in the fragment; otherwise, the secret would leak to a referred to page when following a hyperlink. I presented a paper describing this technique, and why it's good use of web architecture, at W2SP 2008. The paper is at: http://waterken.sourceforge.net/web-key/ Preserving this technique is important since capability-based security is the only access-control model that works in multi-party systems like the Web. Traditional ACLs cannot work in multi-party scenarios. Manifestations of these flaws in the ACL model are widely known under the terms clickjacking and CSRF, though not fully understood. For an in depth explanation of the issues, see: http://waterken.sourceforge.net/aclsdont/ If rationality alone is insufficient to carry the day, I'll also point out that changing a widely implemented MUST requirement in the HTTP spec would violate the charter for HTTPbis. --Tyler On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Vincent Murphy <vdm@vdm.ie> wrote: > During a discussion [0] about why Youtube uses ?feature=related in its URIs, > I observed that the Referer header URI, if it included a fragment > identifier, could be used identify the anchor used to initiate a GET. This > would be useful for > > - analysing anchor popularity, > - eliminating the need for workarounds and hacks like Youtube > ?feature=related > - encourage cleaner, canonical URIs. > > I did a search of discussions around the HTTP protocol, but was not able to > find the origin of the statement from RFC2616 Section 14.32 [1], paraphrased > in the subject of this message. This statement is also in > draft-ietf-httpbis-p2-semantics-05, section 10.6 [2]. > > I seek links to the discussion or rationale and origin of this statement, or > failing that, comments about how allowing fragment identifiers in Referer > URIs would enhance or violate web architecture. > > Thanks, > -Vincent Murphy > > 0. > http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/7x49v/canonical_url_tag_the_most_important_advancement/c07ne0v > 1. http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec14.html#sec14.36 > 2. > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-httpbis-p2-semantics-05.txt > >
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