- From: Klaus Weide <kweide@tezcat.com>
- Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 20:26:00 -0600 (CST)
- To: Koen Holtman <koen@win.tue.nl>
- Cc: http-wg%cuckoo.hpl.hp.com@hplb.hpl.hp.com, www-international@w3.org
On Sat, 14 Dec 1996, Koen Holtman wrote: > Klaus Weide: > > > >On Sun, 8 Dec 1996, Koen Holtman wrote: > >> > >> Overloading a HTTP header and adding HTML tags will take _much_ more time > >> than waiting for feature negotiation to be in place. > > > >Let's hope so :). However, with overloading I meant treating > >{Content,Accept}-Language headers (and related HTML tags or attributes) > >as carrying character repertoire meaning - which is happening now. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > Interesting. That seems like a very strange thing to do. > > Who is doing this and why? Could you give a pointer? Examples where "Language" is treated as carrying charset meaning (not just repertoire, but "charset" including encoding): Pages that do the poor-man's negotiation of letting the user select a "language" manually, than return a page whose charset may vary depending on the language choice. <URL: http://www.alis.com/internet_products/language.en.html> <URL: http://www.accentsoft.com/> <URL: http://www.dkuug.dk/maits/> Another example, which does "real" (automatic) negotiation: <URL: http://www.dkuug.dk:81/maits/summary> (For example, with "accept-language: el, en" you get Greek in iso-8859-7 - even when also sending an "accept-charset" which excludes iso-8859-7.) As for cases where *-Language (or <LANG> etc.) would be used to distinguish between sub-repertoires of Unicode - well I tried to find some examples, but couldn't. Possible reasons are (1) my search was not extensive (or systematic) enough, (2) they don't exist [yet], (3) there aren't many UTF (or 10646) pages now, (4) there aren't many truly multilingual pages now (with more than one language requiring more-than-USASCII). Also the UTF and multilingual pages I found are experimental or for demonstration purposes, so they don't really bother right now about supporting browsers which might be less endowed - the intentions rather seems to be to demonstrate "You need _this_ browser [from us] to see this!". My impression that informal overloading of *-Language with charset meaning is (for some) regarded as an acceptable practice derives from recent messages to the www-international list, were it was argued that this is OK because it covers the "common" and "regualar" case - see e.g. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/msg00405.html>, <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/msg00412.html>, and more generally <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/threads.html>. Klaus
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