- From: Lou Montulli <montulli@mozilla.com>
- Date: Tue, 15 Aug 95 20:19:42 -0700
- To: John Franks <john@math.nwu.edu>
- Cc: http-wg%cuckoo.hpl.hp.com@hplb.hpl.hp.com
> It seems to me that much (but not all) of the discussion over the last > few months on the Expires, Last-Modified headers is really due to the > desire of server administrators to control whether a document is cached. > > One of the big improvements in the current HTTP spec is the "Pragma: > no-cache" header. This provides a way to say, "Don't cache this," > without the need for fictitious expiration or last-modified dates. > This is important. There are often good reasons for saying that a > document should not be cached, but having a future expiration date > (for example, if the validity of the document doesn't, in fact *expire* > until that date). > > The only problem is that server admins often want to prevent local disk > caching as well as proxy caching and the Pragma: no-cache applies only > to the latter. Perhaps we also need a "Pragma: no-local-cache". > > One thing of which I am thoroughly convinced is that if a clean mechanism > for giving administrators this capablility is not made available then > every conceivable ugly hack which has the desired effect will gain > widespread use. We will see 1970 expiration dates (always a lie) and > future last-modified dates (also a lie). These hacks will likely work > with some clients/proxies and fail with others. There will, no doubt, > even be those who use different hacks based on the User-Agent header > of the request! Why not make life easier for everyone and allow a server > to cleanly request that a document not be cached to local disk. > This should be a separate request from the Pragma: no-cache request to > prevent proxy caching. I recently changed netscape to interpret "Pragma: no-cache" and not cache the object. This is slightly different than a "Expires" header because the object will not even be cached for history navigation. (Documents that are expired are still shown when traversing the session history). Haveing the client interpret "Pragma: no-cache" lets servers tell the client that this information is highly sensitive or volitile and should not be cached in any way. :lou -- Lou Montulli http://www.mcom.com/people/montulli/ Netscape Communications Corp.
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