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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 17:54:15 -0500
To: ietf-dav-versioning@w3.org
From: Patrik Fältström <paf@swip.net> (by way of "Ralph R. Swick" <swick@w3.org>)
Subject: Re: Delta-V Design Team Meetings
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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 19:11:00 -0500 (EST)
Old-Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 00:22:41 +0100
From: Patrik Fältström <paf@swip.net>
To: jamsden@us.ibm.com, chair@ietf.org, moore@cs.utk.edu,
ietf-dav-versioning@w3.org
Subject: Re: Delta-V Design Team Meetings
--On 2000-02-16 13.47 -0500, jamsden@us.ibm.com wrote:
> Delta-V will experience significant loss in productivity if we are not
> able to have these regular design team meetings.
As I have stated in the various email I have sent:
- Design team meetings are ok, as long as they are announced on the
IETF-announce list, approved by ADs etc etc as we have been talking about,
and minutes passed to the minutes@ietf.org
- The result of the meetings are NOT "descisions" but suggestions on how to
move forward, i.e. no consensus is to be allowed outside of the mailing
list. As you know, even IETF meeting "descisions" have to be brought back
to the mailing list.
- Noone is complaining on the work being done behind closed doors
So, yes, a lot of this is how things are presented, and yes, that IS
important.
I do understand what you say, and understand your reasoning, that you now
understand where the problem is, and that you feel that more face-2-face
meetings are needed.
As you see above, more face2face meetings are ok, but they are not Delta-V
working group meetings.
> After some reconsideration, I will
> be requesting a meeting slot for Delta-V at Adelaide so that we can
> continue our work.
Good!
> Thank you for your time, and again, I apologize to you,
> and especially to the Delta-V working group and design team, for any
> inconvenience this misunderstanding may have caused.
No problem. It is also the case that as Keith and myself has stated, we
have some wg's (not Delta-V) which we have NOT reacted this strongly about,
and first when we heard complaints we started acting, and it took some 2
years until the wg was running smooth again.
So, even though our words might sound very hard at the moment, we are here
to help.
> I really think we're
> doing some great work, and look forward to seeing you all in Adelaide
> where we can pick up where we left off.
I also think you do great work, and look forward to see the final
deliverables delivered from you (as I do from all wg's :-)
Patrik