RE: Locking a workspace

From: jamsden@us.ibm.com
Date: Tue, May 30 2000

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    From: jamsden@us.ibm.com
    To: ietf-dav-versioning@w3.org
    Message-ID: <852568F0.0008B7BE.00@d54mta02.raleigh.ibm.com>
    Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 21:35:09 -0400
    Subject: RE: Locking a workspace
    
    
    
    
    
    Sounds good to me. We have to define the merge and create baseline
    semantics for a workspace that has working resources and unversioned
    resources. I suggest merge and create baseline fails if there are working
    resources, and unversioned resources are ignored.
    
    
    
    The proposal is to extend the notion of a workspace
    so that instead of it just being a resource that defines
    a versioned-resource to revision mappings, it is now
    a collection of versioned and unversioned resources that
    defines a versioned-resource to revision mapping for the
    versioned resource members of that collection.
    
    This extension provides a mechanism for a workspace to
    contain unversioned resources that are local to that workspace
    (for derived and temporary resources that are not valid
    outside that workspace).
    
    The collection is not structured around a URL namespace,
    but it does define a (relative) URL namespace for its members.
    
    Cheers,
    Geoff
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Tim Ellison/OTT/OTI [mailto:Tim_Ellison@oti.com]
    Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 2:15 PM
    To: Clemm, Geoff
    Cc: ietf-dav-versioning@w3.org
    Subject: RE: Locking a workspace
    
    
    In 05, workspaces can be visualized as a set of versioned resource id to
    revision id (or "none") mappings.
    
    I don't see how you can model this with a collection, since collections
    are necessarily structured around the URL namespace.
    
    Tim
    
    "Clemm, Geoff" <gclemm@Rational.Com>
    
    Tim: Could you explain this a bit more?
    The proposal was to have both versioned resources and
    non-versioned resources in a workspace.
    A workspace defines the target selection for all
    versioned resource members.
    
    When you baseline a workspace, the baseline remembers
    both what revision of a versioned resource was selected
    as well as what name that versioned resource had
    relative to the workspace collection.  When you populate
    a workspace with a baseline, this will generate any
    non-versioned collections needed to recreate the
    namespace defined by the baseline.
    
    How does this produce a non-dav-compliant namespace?
    
    Cheers,
    Geoff
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Tim Ellison/OTT/OTI [mailto:Tim_Ellison@oti.com]
    Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 11:02 AM
    To: ietf-dav-versioning@w3.org
    Subject: Re: Locking a workspace
    
    
    I did not take from the proposal that the target selection criteria for a
    workspace would be manifested as members of the workspace 'collection'.
    Rather that the workspace contained resources that were selected in a
    'higher priority' to the 'global' resources.
    
    If the target selections are collection members, the workspace collection
    would not have a dav-compliant namespace.
    
    Tim
    
    
    
    
    
    
    "Geoffrey M. Clemm" <geoffrey.clemm@rational.com>
    Sent by: ietf-dav-versioning-request@w3.org
    29-05-00 10:56 PM
    
    
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           Subject:        Re: Locking a workspace
    
    
    With the proposed "workspace is a collection" semantics, you can
    get such a lock by issuing a depth lock against the workspace collection.
    
    I guess this is another benefit of the "workspace as collection" approach.
    
    Cheers,
    Geoff
    
       From: "Tim Ellison/OTT/OTI" <Tim_Ellison@oti.com>
      Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 16:51:51 -0400
    
       Is there any mechanism for preventing others from issuing a set-target
      against a workspace (so that it always selects the same thing)?
      How about locking the workspace (although the selection criteria are
      neither content nor properties)?
    
       Tim