- From: Matthew Stanfield <mattstan@blueyonder.co.uk>
- Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 18:53:05 +0100
- To: Dave Raggett <dsr@w3.org>
- CC: jany.quintard@free.fr, Fred.Bone@dial.pipex.com, html-tidy@w3.org
Dave Raggett wrote: > Tidy does its best but it is too dangerous for it move the form > start and end tags arbitrarily. To do that would require a much > more in depth understanding of how a given page works. > > This problem is why it makes sense to allow form fields to > directly reference the form rather than rely on being within > a form element. This is one of the benefits of XForms. We just > didn't realize the issue back in 1993 :-( > > Dave Raggett <dsr@w3.org> W3C lead for voice and multimodal. > http://www.w3.org/People/Raggett +44 1225 866240 (or 867351) Thanks for the info. Dave. One possible way around this problem for me would be to remove all form tags, is there a way to tell Tidy to do this? All I really need is to get valid xml outputted. So if I could simply tell Tidy not to process <form...> and </form> tags then I'd be sorted even if the <input> tags remained making the output invalid html -- I just want valid xml. Is this or something like it possible? If not I'm going to have to write my own supplementary tidy routine to do this. :-( Many thanks for your help everyone, regards, ..matthew PS. Dave -- Thanks for creating Tidy, it is very useful to me, and I appreciate your placing it in the public domain a lot. > > > On Wed, 11 Jun 2003, Matthew Stanfield wrote: > > >>Jany Quintard wrote: >> >>>* Matthew Stanfield [Wed, 11/06/2003 at 15:41 +0100] >>> >>> >>>>>>The problem is that a form is started in a table after the first <tr> but >>>>>>before that <tr>'s first <td>. Hence the following errors and warning. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>How can I make this get tidied. -- I am stuck!! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Move <form> to precede <table> and </form> to follow </table> >>>> >>>>Thanks. I just worked this out a few minutes before your email arrived, but >>>>my problem is that I need to Tidy a lot of these pages - too many to do >>>>manually. Does anyone know how I can get HTML Tidy to tidy this without >>>>having to change it manually? What options could I use? Or, since I don't >>>>actually need any of the data in the forms, how I can remove them? Any >>>>other ideas? >>> >>>If your tags are on the same line, use sed >>>sed s!<table><form>!<form><table>!g >>>else use awk. >>>You can even remove the breakline between end and begin tags and use >>>sed. >>>It is a bit "brute force", but it should work. >>> >>>Jany >>> >> >>Thanks. I believe sed and awk are UNIX commands. I use HTML Tidy in some >>screen scraping software I've written. The html is downloaded and tidied >>into xml using tidied using Charles Reitzel's .net Wrapper for HTML Tidy, >>then I run some xslt on the xml to extract the useful information. I don't >>want to have to run an extra non-tidy routine to tidy my data. Is there no >>way to achieve what I want from within Tidy? >> >>Thanks guys and regards, >> >>..matthew >> >> > >
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