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Re: Problem tidying.

From: Dave Raggett <dsr@w3.org>
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 17:13:59 +0100 (BST)
To: Matthew Stanfield <mattstan@blueyonder.co.uk>
cc: jany.quintard@free.fr, Fred.Bone@dial.pipex.com, html-tidy@w3.org
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.53.0306111710490.1056@localhost.localdomain>

Tidy does its best but it is too dangerous for it move the form
start and end tags arbitrarily. To do that would require a much
more in depth understanding of how a given page works.

This problem is why it makes sense to allow form fields to
directly reference the form rather than rely on being within
a form element. This is one of the benefits of XForms. We just
didn't realize the issue back in 1993 :-(

 Dave Raggett <dsr@w3.org>  W3C lead for voice and multimodal.
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On Wed, 11 Jun 2003, Matthew Stanfield wrote:

> Jany Quintard wrote:
> > * Matthew Stanfield [Wed, 11/06/2003 at 15:41 +0100]
> >
> >>>>The problem is that a form is started in a table after the first <tr> but
> >>>>before that <tr>'s first <td>. Hence the following errors and warning.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>How can I make this get tidied. -- I am stuck!!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Move <form> to precede <table> and </form> to follow </table>
> >>
> >>Thanks. I just worked this out a few minutes before your email arrived, but
> >>my problem is that I need to Tidy a lot of these pages - too many to do
> >>manually. Does anyone know how I can get HTML Tidy to tidy this without
> >>having to change it manually? What options could I use? Or, since I don't
> >>actually need any of the data in the forms, how I can remove them? Any
> >>other ideas?
> >
> > If your tags are on the same line, use sed
> > sed s!<table><form>!<form><table>!g
> > else use awk.
> > You can even remove the breakline between end and begin tags and use
> > sed.
> > It is a bit "brute force", but it should work.
> >
> > Jany
> >
> Thanks. I believe sed and awk are UNIX commands. I use HTML Tidy in some
> screen scraping software I've written. The html is downloaded and tidied
> into xml using tidied using Charles Reitzel's .net Wrapper for HTML Tidy,
> then I run some xslt on the xml to extract the useful information. I don't
> want to have to run an extra non-tidy routine to tidy my data. Is there no
> way to achieve what I want from within Tidy?
> Thanks guys and regards,
> ..matthew
Received on Wednesday, 11 June 2003 12:13:45 UTC

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