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Re: Proposal for issue 277 - part 2

From: Marc Hadley <marc.hadley@sun.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 13:49:02 -0400
Cc: <noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com>, "Herve Ruellan" <ruellan@crf.canon.fr>, <xml-dist-app@w3.org>
To: "Henrik Frystyk Nielsen" <henrikn@microsoft.com>
Message-Id: <E38B44BF-E2C1-11D6-9506-0003937568DC@sun.com>

On Friday, Oct 18, 2002, at 12:57 US/Eastern, Henrik Frystyk Nielsen 
> I agree that this would be a consistent model but I think it would
> require changes to the current model based on qualified names described
> in part 1, section 2.8:
> "The version of a SOAP message is identified by the qualified name of
> the child element information item of the document information item. A
> SOAP Version 1.2 message has a child element information item of the
> document information item with a [local name] of Envelope and a
> [namespace name] of "http://www.w3.org/2002/06/soap-envelope" (see 5.1
> SOAP Envelope)."
I'd be fine with changing this.

> If I recall, the reason for going with a qualified name was to clarify
> that
>   <S:HenriksEnvelope xmlns:S="http://www.w3.org/2002/06/soap-envelope">
> would result in a S:VersionMismatch and not a S:Sender fault.
A sender fault would seem more logical here - the envelope is malformed.

>  Using a
> qualified name could also be seen as being more consistent with out
> treatment of header blocks.
I don't follow you, can you explain ?


>> I disagree, the namespace of the envelope defines the version
>> of SOAP -
>> any future version of SOAP that added new elements or changed element
>> names would also have to change the namespace. The upgrade
>> header block
>> just declares support for a particular version and hence only the
>> namespace is required - claiming to support that version means
>> supporting changed or multiple root elements so there's no need to
>> mention them explicitly.
> Henrik
> [1] 
> http://www.w3.org/2000/xp/Group/2/06/LC/soap12-part1.xml#envvermodel
Marc Hadley <marc.hadley@sun.com>
XML Technology Center, Sun Microsystems.
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