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Agenda, 18 March 2004 WS Desc telcon

From: Jonathan Marsh <jmarsh@microsoft.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 11:54:54 -0800
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0.  Dial in information (members only) [.1]:

See the public WG page [.2] for pointers to current documents and other
information, and the private page [.3] for administrative matters.

If you have additions to the agenda, please email them to the WG list
before the start of the telcon.

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2004Mar/0053.html
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/
[.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/admin

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Agenda

1.  Welcome new member: Hao He of Thomson.
    Say farewell to retiring invited experts: Steve Graham, Steve
Tuecke.
    Assign scribe.  Lucky minute taker for this week is one of:
      Jeffrey Schlimmer, David Orchard, Ingo Melzer,
      Paul Downey, Jeff Mischkinsky, Hugo Haas,
      Bijan Parsia, Allen Brookes, Jerry Thrasher, David Booth

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2.  Approval of minutes:
  - Joint meeting with XMLP [.1]
  - FTF Wed, Thu, Summary [.2, .3, .4]
  - March 11th telcon (corrected) [.5]
  
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2004Mar/0006.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Mar/0038.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Mar/0039.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Mar/0040.html
[.5]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Mar/att-0157/2004041
1-ws-desc-irc.htm

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3.  Review of Action items [.1].
?         2003-09-18: Marsh to review the QA operational
                      guidelines.
?         2004-01-08: Pauld to write up examples of schemas for the
                      Primer.
?         2004-01-28: Philippe and JMarsh will look at the ipr for 
                      test suite.
?         2004-01-30: DaveO to write up a proposal for augmenting 
                      schema information to enable versioned data.
?         2004-02-12: DaveO to produce a refined proposal for Asynch 
                      HTTP binding addressing the concerns of folks 
                      that object to leaving replyTo info out of WSDL.
DONE [.2] 2004-02-26: Editors to adopting the diff in Gudge's proposal
(http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Feb/0232.html) 
                      along with the two additional words to 
                      Section 3.2. (#143)
DONE [.3] 2004-02-26: Editors to rename the message property to 
                      "element" (#142).
DONE [.4] 2004-02-26: Editors to clarify wording (#122).
EDTODO    2004-03-04: Editors to add back the WSDL Component 
                      Designators back to the spec as SHOULD.
DONE [.5] 2004-03-04: Editors to incorporate the above proposal to 
                      issue 79.
?         2004-03-04: DBooth to propose specific changes needed for 
                      processor conformance text.
DONE [.6] 2004-03-04: Primer Editors to include best practices and the 
                      Schema group to review the best practices 
                      language.
EDTODO    2004-03-05: Editors to clarify the spec to say that
                      required attribute means that a feature 
                      must be understood and it must be engaged.
EDTODO    2004-03-05: Editors to clarify that the strongest value of
                      the required attribute wins.
DONE [.7] 2004-03-05: Editors to add clarification text with regards to 
                      issue 121.
EDTODO    2004-03-05: Editors to write in the spec the wsdlLocation
                      global attribute proposal along what has been 
                      done for xsi:schemaLocation.
DONE [.8] 2004-03-05: Editor to add optional Boolean "safe" attribute to
                      interface operation, corresponding property in 
                      the component model.
?         2004-03-05: DavidO to notify TAG about our decision on safety.
DONE [.8] 2004-03-05: Editors to further clarify the spec to make clear
                      that all operations must be bound.
DONE [.9] 2004-03-05: Editors to clarify the spec to say that its ok to
                      have bad imports but if during QName resolution 
                      you can't find something then it fails like any 
                      other qname resolution issue.
EDTODO    2004-03-05: Editors to update draft to say that include will
                      fail early.
EDTODO    2004-03-05: Editors to add text saying two imports with same 
                      import/@targetNamespace is legal.
DONE [.9] 2004-03-05: Editors to clarify that if an optional extension 
                      (i.e., an extension not marked as required) is 
                      not understood it MUST be ignored. Any not 
                      understood extension attributes MUST be ignored.
EDTODO    2004-03-05: Editors (namely Gudge and Roberto) to update the 
                      schema and the spec accordingly.
EDTODO    2004-03-05: Editors to change spec to require absolute URIs
                      and indicate that comparison must be done 
                      character-by-character as per TAG finding.
DONE      2004-03-05: Jonathan to send a note to XMLP, asking them for 
                      volunteers for editors.
?         2004-03-05: Editors of media type proposal to give Jonathan a 
                      list of open issues.
?         2004-03-11: Sanjiva to fill in data for May FTF on logistics 
                      page.
DONE[.10] 2004-03-11: Editors to clarify 2.4.1 on why no global qname 
                      reference to endpoints.
DONE[.11] 2004-03-11: JMarsh to find part of spec impacted by 115 and
send 
                      mail out to group.
?         2004-03-11: JMarsh, David Booth, David Orchard to form adhoc 
                      group to explore stylistic rendering options.
EDTODO    2004-03-11: Editors to change @name to @ref as found in email 
                      Mar/0067.
EDTODO    2004-03-11: Editors to change @label to @messagelabel as 
                      proposed by Sanjiva.
DONE[.12] 2004-03-11: Editors to add a {value} property to the Property 
                      component.
DONE[.13] 2004-03-11: JMarsh to provide component model changes
supporting 
                      #any|#empty proposal.
?         2004-03-11: Jacek to propose resolution for issue 152,
Importing
                      the targetNamespace.

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/#actions
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Mar/0095.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Mar/0096.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Mar/0097.html
[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Mar/0100.html
[.6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Mar/0105.html
[.7] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Mar/0102.html
[.8] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Mar/0104.html
[.9] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Mar/0144.html 
[.10] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Mar/0094.html 
[.11] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Mar/0106.html
[.12] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2004Mar/0052.html
[.13] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Mar/0073.html

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4.  Administrivia
  a. Upcoming FTFs
     - May 19, 9:00 AM - 5:30 PM
       May 20, 8:00 AM - 12:00 PM 
         (possible task force meetings in the afternoon)
       May 21, 8:00 AM - 4:00 PM
     Hosted by IBM in NYC [.1]
  b. Charter renewal - everyone needs to be reappointed [.2]
  c. Handling Privacy [.3] review

[.1] TBD
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2004Feb/0033.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Feb/0119.html

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5.  Task Force Status.
 a. Properties and Features (dormant)
 b. Patterns (dormant)
 c. Attributes (dormant)
 d. Media type description
 e. QA & Testing
  - Response to comments on QA Spec Guidelines [.2]
  - Implement QA Operational guidelines? [.3]  
 f. Schema versioning

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Jan/0000.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0074.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003Sep/0023.html

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6.  New Issues.  Issues list [.1].
  - Are there still import include issues? (Yaron) [.2]
  - RPC signature tokens (## -> #) (Roberto) [.3]

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Mar/0083.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Mar/0110.html

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7.  Issue 112 New headers/body style? [.1]
  - Awaiting compromise proposal from Glen [.2] and David O. [.3]
  - Scheduled for next week.

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x112
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Feb/0053.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Mar/0010.html
  
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8.  Issue 115 Improving on-the-wire conformance [.1]
  - Needs approval of wording as it appears in the spec [.2]

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x115
[.2]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/wsdl20/wsdl20.html#exte
nsibility-semantics

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9.  Issue 146 Should WSDL be able to describe an operation with 
    *anything* in the message? [.1] [and] Issue 150 Indicating 
    empty bodies [.2]
  - Jonathan's proposal [.3], additional clarification [.4]

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x146
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x150
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Mar/0073.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Mar/0091.html

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10. Issue 152 Importing the targetNamespace [.1]
  - awaiting proposal from Jacek

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x152

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11. Publication.
  - Miscellaneous editing issues
  - Assess whether the working group is ready to approve publication 
    of parts one and two as Working Drafts.

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12. HTTP Binding [.1]
  - Diff marking for latest revision.
  - The functionality represented here seems to address issues 85 [.2]
    and 110 [.3].  Can we close those issues?

[.1]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/wsdl20/wsdl20-bindings.
html#_http
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x85
[.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x110

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13. Mime Binding 
  - Issue 58 [.1]: Permit "message" attribute in mime:content binding? 
  - Issue 59 [.2]: MIME Binding permits 0 parts in multipart/related
  - Proposal to close issues [.3]

[.1]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/%7Echeckout%7E/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.h
tml#x58
[.2]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/%7Echeckout%7E/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.h
tml#x59
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Mar/0085.html

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14. Issue 66: How to represent the equivalent of hypertext links? [.1]
  - Proposal to close issues [.2]

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x66
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Mar/0086.html

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15. Issue 32: Support for SOAP 1.1 [.1].
  - Call for volunteers to craft a proposal [.2]

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x32
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Mar/0084.html

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16. Issue 64 [.1] Operations an HTTP verbs (Mark Baker) [.2, .3, .4]
  - Jacek's synthesis [.5].
  - Awaiting description from Philippe showing how properties or
    extensions can be used to annotate the WSDL with RESTful 
    properties.  Ask Mark for a definitive list of those properties 
    so we can consider how to associate them with property URIs or 
    namespaces.
  - Marking WSDL operations as "safe" (DaveO/TAG) [.6, .7]

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x64
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0094.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jan/0103.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jan/0111.html
[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jul/0095.html
[.6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Nov/0104.html
[.7] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Dec/0021.html
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