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Re: [rev 0] Agenda, 3-5 Nov 2003 WSDesc FTF

From: Umit Yalcinalp <umit.yalcinalp@oracle.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:13:11 -0800
Message-ID: <3F9DC2A7.1070006@oracle.com>
To: Jonathan Marsh <jmarsh@microsoft.com>
Cc: www-ws-desc@w3.org

Jonathan,

I would like to see a broader discussion on F&P and how it relates to 
Dropping Headers topic in the f2f. Perhaps the allocated slot should be 
extended to cover this topic (which does not appear to be adequate at 
this point). There is an ongoing discussion in the mailing list [1] and 
Roberto's head is not the only one spinning :-).

I personally do not want to make a decision about this topic until we 
can see more examples with F&P.

Thanks.

--umit

[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/0214.html

Jonathan Marsh wrote:

>[First draft, suggestions welcome!]
>
>Logistics [1], dial-in numbers [2] (members only).
>
>  [1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/3/05/f2fNovLogistics.htm
>  [2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/3/05/f2fNovLogistics.htm #Bridge
>
>--------------------------------------------------------
>Monday 3 November
>--------------------------------------------------------
>09:00 Introductions and logistics
>    - Assignment of scribes
>        Candidates TBD
>    - Agenda fine-tuning
>    - Reviewing parts 1 and 2 for publication
>
>09:15 Faults.
>    - Fault refs pointing to more than one message [3]
>    - Proposal for faults [4]; revised proposal [5]
>    - Optional name: waiting for a motivating use case.
>
>  [3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0213.html
>  [4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0250.html
>  [5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/0051.html
>
>10:30 Break
>10:50 Drop @headers
>    - Proposal from Sanjiva [6]
>    - Related questions from Youenn [7]
>
>  [6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/0107.html
>  [7] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0033.html
>
>12:30 Lunch
>13:30 Pattern inference [8]
>      (optional @pattern, optional @messageReference):
>    - Tabled decision on optional @pattern to future telcon.
>    - Tabled decision on optional @messageReference to a future telcon.
>    - Sanjiva proposes dropping redundant {direction} property from 
>      the component model [9]
>    - messageReference attribute is optional (inconsistent) [10]
>
>  [8] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0172.html
>  [9] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0210.html
> [10] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0127.html
>
>15:00 Break
>15:20 Issue 2: SOAPAction has been deprecated, as of SOAP 1.2 [11].
>    - Arthur's proposal to unify property URIs and QName URIs. [12]
>      Alternatives include using property markup, or a QNamed 
>      attribute.  Glen's Features and Properties musings [13]
>
> [11] http://tinyurl.com/mwuy#x2
> [12] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0047.html
> [13] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/0144.html 
> 
>17:30 Adjourn
>
>-------------------------------------------------------
>Tuesday 4 November
>-------------------------------------------------------
>09:00 Multiple inline schemas [20]
>
> [20] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/0074.html
>
>10:00 Endpoint references
>    - Proposal from Arthur/Umit [21]
>    - Awaiting simplified proposal from Roberto/Glen
>    - Motivation for R131 from DaveO [22]
>
> [21]
>http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2003Sep/att-0071/ws-ref-
>present-1.0.zip
> [22] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0181.html
> 
>10:30 Break
>10:50 Endpoint references (cont)
>
>12:30 Lunch
>13:30 Attributes
>
>15:00 Break
>15:20 Attributes (cont.)
>
>17:30 Adjourn
>
>-------------------------------------------------------
>Wednesday 5 November
>-------------------------------------------------------
>09:00 Publication review - motion to publish parts 1 and 2
>
>09:15 Uniqueness on the wire
>   - Proposal from Umit [30]
>
> [30] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/0112.html
>
>10:30 Break
>10:50 Issue #88 [31] Rename "operation" to "messageExchange" (again!?).
>    Deferred while thread is running [32]
>
> [31] http://tinyurl.com/mwuy#x88
> [32] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0024.html
>
>12:30 Adjourn
>
>
>
>  
>

-- 
Umit Yalcinalp                                  
Consulting Member of Technical Staff
ORACLE
Phone: +1 650 607 6154                          
Email: umit.yalcinalp@oracle.com
Received on Monday, 27 October 2003 20:13:15 GMT

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