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Agenda, 3 July 2003 WS Desc telcon

From: Jonathan Marsh <jmarsh@microsoft.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 10:48:45 -0700
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0.  Dial in information (members only) [.1]:

See the public WG page [.2] for pointers to current documents and other
information, and the private page [.3] for administrative matters.

If you have additions to the agenda, please email them to the WG list
before the start of the telcon.

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003Jul/0002.html
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/
[.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/admin

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Agenda

1.  Assign scribe.  Lucky minute taker for this week is:
      Don Mullen (fallbacks: Adi Sakala, Sandeep Kumar, 
      Dale Moberg, Prasad Yendluri, Jacek Kopecky, 
      Dietmar Gaertner, Jerry Thrasher, Allen Brooks, Glen Daniels)

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2.  Approval of minutes:
  - June 26 telcon [.1].  Belated regrets from Prasad.  Correction from
    JJM about reverting rather than deleting section 1.1. [.2]

[.1]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jun/att-0152/minutes
-20030626.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jun/0163.html

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3.  Review of Action items [.1].
?         2003-03-13: Don will write a proposal for annotating schema
                      with part information.
?         2003-03-27: Philippe write up a proposal for embedding binary
                      data types in schema
?         2003-05-13: DaveO to send a motivating example for R131.
?         2003-05-13: Jeffsch, Sanjiva, Glen, Umit, JJM to come up with
                      a proposal to get rid with the message construct,
                      and add programming hints.
?         2003-05-14: Kevin to contact Sanjiva and try to merge 
                      proposals.
?         2003-06-12: Jacek to synthesize the different approaches 
                      to solving issue 64.
?         2003-06-26: dbooth to propose definitions for "interface",
                      "service", etc. as they pertain to the diagram

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/#actions

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4.  Administrivia
  a. Welcome new members:
     - Mark Jones for AT&T (alternate)
     - Bradley R. Bebee for Hicks & Associates (representing DARPA)
  b. July FTF logistics [.1], registration [.2]
  c. Joint plenary with OASIS Dec 8th - how many would attend?

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/3/05/f2fJulyLogistics.htm
[.2]
http://cgi.w3.org/Register/selectUser.pl?_w3c_meetingName=WSAWG_WSDWG_20
0307

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5.  Task Force Status.
 a. Properties and Features (dormant)
 b. Patterns
 c. Attributes
 d. QA & Testing

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6.  New Issues.  Merged issues list [.1].
  - MEP text from WSArch [.2]

[.1]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jun/0167.html

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7.  Substitution groups or <xs:any> extensibility [.1].
    Awaiting alternatives from Roberto.

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jun/0051.html

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8.  Single service per interface motivation [.1, .2]
    Comments on the pretty pictures [.3].  Simplification of the
    simplification proposal [.4].  Error in diagram (David) [.5]. 

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0095.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0104.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jun/0023.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jun/0031.html
[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jun/0064.html

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9.  R085 Describing endpoint references.  [.1]
  - General agreement to add such capability to WSDL, but
    not agreement on the precise form of the annotations and
    where in the WSDL they should reside. Proposal 
    from Umit [.3], response from Arthur [.4].
  - Related issue (?) dynamic discovery of a service [.2].

[.1]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Apr/att-0088/R085-20
03-04-22.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0004.html
[.3]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jun/att-0024/umit_pr
oposal.html__charset_ISO-8859-1
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jun/0142.html

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10. Issue 64 [.1] Operations an HTTP verbs (Mark Baker) [.2, .3, .4]

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x64 
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0094.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jan/0103.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jan/0111.html

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11. Issue 2: SOAPAction has been deprecated, as of SOAP 1.2 [.1].
  - Arthur's proposal to unify property URIs and QName URIs. [.2]
    Alternatives include using property markup, or a QNamed 
    attribute.
  - Proposal for advertising QoS features of a Web service in WSDL [.3].

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x2 
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0047.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0020.html

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12. Binding enhancements
    Sanjiva proposes [.1] to:
      1) Drop @interface from binding, since now in service. 
      2) Allow inlining interface-wide binding within a port and 
         making binding optional. 
      3) Define default binding (SOAP doc/lit).  
      4) Dealing with operation specific SOAPActions.
    Kevin proposes to [.2]:
      1) Allow reuse of parts of bindings through a BindingDetails
         element and corresponding references.
    Waiting for Kevin and Sanjiva to consolidate the proposals.

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0046.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jan/0068.html

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13. Removing message.
    Investigating idea to cleanly separate interop at the message 
    format level from interop at the programming model level. Awaiting
    proposal from Jeffsch et. al. to get rid with the message 
    construct, and add programming hints.

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14. Moving MIME Type Information to the Interface [.1]
    Awaiting proposal from Philippe.

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Mar/0028.html 

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15. Using RDF in WSDL [.1].
    Dependent upon RDF mapping first draft.

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0076.html
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