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Agenda, 17 April 2003 WS Desc telcon

From: Jonathan Marsh <jmarsh@microsoft.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 08:56:26 -0700
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0.  Dial in information (members only) [.1]:

See the public WG page [.2] for pointers to current documents and other
information, and the private page [.3] for administrative matters.

If you have additions to the agenda, please email them to the WG list
before the start of the telcon.

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003Apr/0028.html <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003Apr/00> 
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/ <http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/> 
[.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/admin <http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/admin> 

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Agenda

1.  Assign scribe.  Lucky minute taker for this week is:
      Jeff Mischkinsky (fallbacks Umit Yalcinalp, Steve White,
      Erik Ackerman, Lily Liu, Bill Stumbo, Tom Jordahl, 
      Jean-Jacques Moreau, David Booth, Don Mullen)

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2.  Approval of minutes of April 10 telcon [.1].  Steve Graham
    sent late regrets.

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Apr/0031.html
 
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3.  Review of Action items [.1].
?         2003-01-21: Roberto and gudge to create a branch and work up
                      a binding proposal based on referencing type
                      systems directly from operation components.
                      (Umit's example, Sanjiva's example, WSDL 1.1
                      example, and others.)
?         2003-02-27: Sanjiva to send summary of
                      one-portType-per-service issue.
?         2003-03-04: Editors to discuss markup for testable assertions
                      in the spec and come back with a strategy.
?         2003-03-04: Jonathan to recruit a QA contact for the WG.
?         2003-03-04: Jonathan to recruit a test contact for the WG.
?         2003-03-13: Editors will find part 2 issues to dispatch
                      easily next telcon.
?         2003-03-13: Don will write a proposal for annotating schema
                      with part information.
?         2003-03-27: Jonathan will follow-up with editors to figure
                      out how to improve the prose of the spec to be
                      aligned with schema.
?         2003-03-27: Philippe write up a proposal for embedding bindary
                      data types in schema
?         2003-04-03: Arthur to bring discussion to group in two weeks
                      (more or less) for solutions to R085
?         2003-04-03: Arthur to coordinate work on WSDL validator
?         2003-04-03: Editors to include normative schema language in
                      spec (conformance section?); schema to be
                      separate, in TR space.
PENDING   2003-04-03: Jonathan to respond to OWL with "no plans to
                      review, no resources, little knowledge of
                      why requested".
?         2003-04-10: Sanjiva to rewrite his proposal on bindings.

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/#actions <http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/#actions> 

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4.  Administrivia
  a. May FTF [.1].
  b. Sept FTF (looking for West Coast host).
  c. Usage Scenarios [.3].  Jonathan's still pretending to track this.
  d. QA contact, test lead recruitment.
  e. TF status
  f. XML Schema 1.0 Second Edition review [.4]  (Did we commit to a
     review or should I tell them we're not going to?)

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2003/ws/desc/3/05/f2fMayLogistics.htm <http://www.w3.org/2003/ws/desc/3/05/f2fMayLogistics.htm> 
[.2]
http://cgi.w3.org/Register/selectUser.pl?_w3c_meetingName=WSAWG_WSDWG_200305 <http://cgi.w3.org/Register/selectUser.pl?_w3c_meetingName=WSAWG_WSDWG_200305> 
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003Jan/0054.html <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003Jan/0054.html> 
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003Apr/0014.html <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003Apr/0014.html> 

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5.  New Issues.  Merged issues list [.1].
  - none

[.1]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.html <http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.html> 

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6. Issue 2: SOAPAction has been deprecated, as of SOAP 1.2 [.1].
    Jean-Jacques proposal at [.2].
    Jacek's addendum at [.3].
    Proposal from Glen at [.4], fix from JJM at [.5].  Undecided on
      whether to allow WSDL 1.1 syntax, PnF syntax, or both.

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x2 <http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x2> 
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Sep/0050.html <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Sep/0050.html> 
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Sep/0056.html <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Sep/0056.html> 
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Apr/0010.html <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Apr/0010.html> 
[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Apr/0022.html <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Apr/0022.html> 

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7.  BindingType proposal from Kevin [.1].  Updated proposal at [.2].
    Sanjiva's alternative at [.3].

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Aug/0009.html <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Aug/0009.html> 
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jan/0068.html <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jan/0068.html> 
[.3]  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Jul/att-0117/01-bindings-2002-07-24.html <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Jul/att-0117/01-bindings-2002-07-24.html> 

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8.  Issue 6e [.1]
  - Arthur's proposal on URL replacement [.2].
    Plan to do the obvious cleanup suggested by Arthur, and fork the
    rest into an R85 solution.

[.1]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.html#x6e <http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.html#x6e> 
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Mar/0059.html <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Mar/0059.html> 

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9.  Issues 53-55 [.1]
  - Philippe's proposal for HTTP binding [.2].

[.1]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.html#x53 <http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.html#x53> 
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Mar/0068.html <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Mar/0068.html> 

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10. Part 2 issues identified by Part 2 editors.

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11. Moving MIME Type Information to the Interface [.1]
    Awaiting proposal from Philippe.

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Mar/0028.html <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Mar/0028.html> 

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12. Issue 28: transport='uri' [.1]
    Waiting on proposal from Phillippe.

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x28 <http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x28> 

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13. Removing message.  Umit's posting on the value of part as an
    abstract concept of WSDL [.1].  Sanjiva asks for more rationale
    as to why his proposal did not fly [.2], and suggests that
    inheritance and overloading go together [.3].  Roberto's original
    proposal at [.4].  Direction suggested by Dale [.5]

    Postponed until we have a little better idea of what our bindings
    will look like.  Gudge's responses [.6, .7] to Umit's examples [.8]

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Feb/0011.html <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Feb/0011.html> 
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Feb/0020.html <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Feb/0020.html> 
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Feb/0014.html <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Feb/0014.html> 
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Nov/0035.html <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Nov/0035.html> 
[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Dec/0040.html <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Dec/0040.html> 
[.6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Mar/0006.html <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Mar/0006.html> 
[.7] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Mar/0013.html <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Mar/0013.html> 
[.8] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Feb/0005.html <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Feb/0005.html> 

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14. Patterns.
 a. Waiting on framing of the issue by the Patterns task force.
 b. Soliciting rationale for each pattern [.1]

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Mar/0016.html <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Mar/0016.html> 
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