- From: Jonathan Marsh <jmarsh@microsoft.com>
- Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 12:26:34 -0700
- To: <www-ws-desc@w3.org>
W3C Web Services Description Teleconference 6/27/2002
Minutes of Meeting
Scribe: Waqar Sadiq
Participants:
David Booth W3C
Allen Brookes Rogue Wave Software
Roberto Chinnici Sun Microsystems
Youenn Fablet Canon
Dietmar Gaertner Software AG
Martin Gudgin Microsoft
Tom Jordahl Macromedia
Jacek Kopecky Systinet
Sandeep Kumar Cisco Systems
Philippe Le Hégaret W3C
Kevin Canyang Liu SAP
Michael Mahan Nokia
Pallavi Malu Intel
Jonathan Marsh Chair (Microsoft)
Dale Moberg Cyclone Commerce
Jean-Jacques Moreau Canon
Johan Pauhlsson L'Echangeur
Jochen Ruetschlin DaimlerChrysler Research and Technology
Arthur Ryman IBM
Waqar Sadiq Electronic Data Systems
Jeffrey Schlimmer Microsoft
Igor Sedukhin Computer Associates
Jerry Thrasher Lexmark
Steve Tuecke Global Grid Forum
William Vambenepe Hewlett-Packard
Sanjiva Weerawarana IBM
Joyce Yang Oracle
Prasad Yendluri webMethods, Inc.
Regrets:
Michael Champion Software AG
Glen Daniels Macromedia
Laurent De Teneuille L'Echangeur
Tim Finin University of Maryland
Steve Graham Global Grid Forum
Dan Kulp IONA
Steve Lind AT&T
Michael Mealling Verisign
Jeff Mischkinsky Oracle
Don Mullen Tibco
Stefano Pogliani Sun
Adi Sakala IONA Technologies
Daniel Schutzer Citigroup
Dave Solo Citigroup
William Stumbo Xerox
Don Wright Lexmark
Absent:
Mike Ballantyne Electronic Data Systems
Mike Davoren W. W. Grainger
Mario Jeckle DaimlerChrysler Research and Technology
Mike McHugh W. W. Grainger
Sandra Swearingen U.S. Department of Defense, U.S. Air Force
Agenda:
1. Minute taker - Waqar Sadiq
2. Approval of Minutes
2a. Minutes from 6/20 telecon. approved.
2b) Minutes from F2F were approved
3) Review of Action Items
- JM pointed out that the issues list on the group page points to the raw list rather than the combined issues list.
- SW: It is easier to see a symbolic string for the issues rather than a cryptic number.
- Jonathan wanted to keep it as it is for existing issues.
- DB: Mentioned the editorial issues. The proposal was to change the terminology for operations.
It would make the terminology consistent. Nobody had problems.
These would be just terminology and not syntactic changes. The terms such as request-response
will be deprecated and will be defined more clearly in the golssary section.
- DM: Now that we have adopted the terminology change, we need to revisit and rephrase issues.
- SW: Don't think that makes much sense.
- JM: Asked Dale to identify the issues that might be affected by the terminology change.
Action item for DM to identify and rephrase the affected issues.
- SW: (SOAPAction#1) - Pending.
- JJM: (SOAPAction#2) - Pending
- Issue 18 - Pending
- Issue 23 - Done
- Issue 24 - ?????
- Issue 30 - Done
- Issue 32 - Duplicate. JJM expressed confusion anout the issue. JM decided that we will revisit the issue
and clarify it.
4. JM - Soap task force meeting will be held at 8:00 AM EST on Monday.
5. Sandeep will be the primary representative from CISCO, replacing Krishna. JM - No apparent need to find a replacement for Krishna's editorial responsibilities.
6. Requirements document
- New draft requirement were submitted by Sanjeewa earlier.
- SW: These are 2 new requirements that should be added?
- TJ requested clarification about how WSDL would be affected.
- JM: Can we publish our requirement document or should we first talk about these draft requirements?
- TJ: Should go ahead and make it a draft requirement but would like to understand them better.
- JS: Comfortable to add this as a draft requirement but needs further discussion.
- Resolution - Add these 2 as draft requirements. Postpone publication of the requirements document untill we have
better understanding and have had chance to investigate these 2 new requirements.
- ACTION - JS will add the draft requirements to the document.
- Philippe brought up another requirement (Creating a media type for WSDL).
- ACTION : JS will add this as a MUST requirement and it will not be discussed further.
7. WSDL 1.2 Part 1&2
- SW: Part1 is 80% complete for basing on infoset. Binding and Service types are left. Suggested to
put editorial note saying that binding and service elements be left in the old form until
the new issues are resolved.
- JM: Proposed that WG approve the publication of Part 1 and any show stopper objections be resolved
by next Thursday.
- No objections to publishing Part 1 by next Thursday.
- ACTION: All working group members to
review the document and raise objections by next thursday. If no objections are reaised, then it
will be published. SW will distribute a draft of final draft by the close of the day on Thursday.
Part 2:
- JM: Same as part 1. No objections to publishing by next thursday.
- PY: Asked about the status of the documents after they are published.
- JM: They will be working drafts.
8. ISSUES
- No objections to closing issues 57, 43, 38, 37, 36, 35, 34, "issue-clarify elements" & 42.
- All those issues will be marked as resolved.
- Issues 26 & 60 will remain on active list and be resolved over the next few weeks.
9. Action: Issues list editors to look at them and make sure that they are not duplicate and add them to issue list.
10. Editorial Issues
JM: Would it be more productive to provide people some time (2-3 week) to review and agree and identify the editorial
editorial issues. The editors can then ake the editorial corrections and dispose
them off withou tfurther discussion.
Resolution: 2 week deadline to point out and verify editorial issues list.
11. Overloading operations:
- JY: Disallow overloading but is possible through XML Schema. SW mentioned that it
could be in the primer.
- Some discussion on where it should go? Primer and mail archive.
Resolution: No resolution.
Action: JM will think about what should be done with it and track it.
12. SOAP role attribute:
- Discussion between PY, Jack and JJM about whether the roles are static or dynamic.
- No body has objected to the proposal.
Resolution: Issue closed. JJM's original proposal with the firendly ammendment will be integrated
after the spec. document has been published.
General: JM agreed to send out an email listing the closed issues and pointers to their resolution.
13. Issue-require-targetnamespace
- All WSDL components must be in a namespace.
Resolution: No objections. Issue closed.
14. Remove name attribute
A lot of discussion on this issues.
Resolution: Need to be discussed further. Defer back to email discussion to clarify.
No telecon. next week.
Summary of Action Items:
2002-06-20: Sanjiva. Champion for 6c. Issue: SOAPAction1 #1
2002-06-20: Jean-J. Analyze whether WSD should gneralize a
mechanism to provide protocol headers. This was
discussed as part of 6d. Issue: SOAPAction2 #2
actor URI in WSDL? #17
2002-06-20: JeffS Champion for 6h. Issue: Default for transport
of <soap:binding> #18
2002-06-20: Issue Editor. Jean-J identifies dup issue: 6q. Issue:
SOAP 1.1 backward compatibility support? #32 (Needs
Clarification.)
2002-06-27: JS will add the draft requirements to the document.
2002-06-27: JS will add media types as a MUST requirement.
2002-06-27: SW will distribute a draft of final draft by the close of
the day on Thursday.
2002-06-27: Issues list editors to look at the issues in Agenda item 9
and make sure that they are not duplicate and add them to
issue list.
2002-06-27: JM will think about what should be done with the suggestion
for a note or appendix on 1.2 -> 1.2 transition.
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