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RE: D-AG006 Security : Proposal for a task force for writing the Security WG Charter

From: David Orchard <dorchard@bea.com>
Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 18:55:20 -0700
To: "'Ahmed, Zahid'" <zahid.ahmed@commerceone.com>, <www-ws-arch@w3.org>
Message-ID: <032b01c1f633$69b8faa0$af0ba8c0@beasys.com>
Zahid,

My proposal is that the Requirements document and Usage Scenario documents
do not need to be completed before chartering commence.  For example, there
is no reason why we need to complete the "service discovery" usage scenarios
before starting security wg.

I'm really proposing a depth first approach, which is taking a first cut at
some specific sections, including security, in the usage scenarios and
requirements documents.   In my mind, the key thing is to figure out the
high priority areas to look at.  Once we kick the groups off, then we
continue in the refinement of usage scenarios, requirements, and
architecture.  If (when) issues come up with chartered groups, then we can
do course corrections.   In fact, the issue was talked about yesterday at
the AC meeting - of course at my prompting ;-).  You can check the minutes
of the AC meeting, but suffice to say that the Director was supportive of
this proposed approach, though he had reservations about giving blank
cheques.

Cheers,
Dave

> -----Original Message-----
> From: www-ws-arch-request@w3.org [mailto:www-ws-arch-request@w3.org]On
> Behalf Of Ahmed, Zahid
> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 5:26 PM
> To: www-ws-arch@w3.org
> Subject: RE: D-AG006 Security : Proposal for a task force for writing
> the Security WG Charter
>
>
> Completing the Web Services Requirements and the Web
> Services Architecture Usage Scenario documents, which
> both contain security requirements and securty examples,
> in them is very important for any concrete work to be
> done by a security working group.
>
> However, we could, in parallel:
>
> 1) decide what Web Services WGs should we focus on?
> 2) define the objectives of the required W3C Web Services WGs.
> E.g., via charter templates.
>
> This is pretty much echoing what David already has
> proposed.
>
> thanks,
> Zahid
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joseph Hui [mailto:Joseph.Hui@exodus.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 4:45 PM
> To: Mark Baker; Abbie Barbir
> Cc: www-ws-arch@w3.org
> Subject: RE: D-AG006 Security : Proposal for a task force for writing
> the Security WG Charter
>
>
> +1
>
> Joe Hui
> Exodus, a Cable & Wireless service
> =============================================
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mark Baker [mailto:distobj@acm.org]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 3:26 PM
> > To: Abbie Barbir
> > Cc: www-ws-arch@w3.org
> > Subject: Re: D-AG006 Security : Proposal for a task force
> for writing
> > the Security WG Charter
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 07, 2002 at 04:00:06PM -0400, Abbie Barbir wrote:
> > > can we have a task force that write the charter for the
> Security WG.
> > > I do volunteer to be the editor for that activity.
> >
> > Shouldn't we try to at least come to concensus on security
> > requirements
> > first?  Furthermore, we should aim to (at least) come to
> concensus on
> > the "horizontal" requirements that would impact this work; Web
> > architecture, for example.
> >
> > This seems *highly* premature to me.
> >
> > MB
> > --
> > Mark Baker, Chief Science Officer, Planetfred, Inc.
> > Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA.      mbaker@planetfred.com
> > http://www.markbaker.ca   http://www.planetfred.com
> >
> >
>
>
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