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RE: Seeking closure on D-AR019.1.1 and D-AR019.1.3

From: Damodaran, Suresh <Suresh_Damodaran@stercomm.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:19:12 -0500
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To: "'Mark Baker'" <distobj@acm.org>, "ECKERT,ZULAH (HP-Cupertino,ex1)" <zulah_eckert@hp.com>
Cc: "WSA W3C Public (E-mail)" <www-ws-arch@w3c.org>


Actually, I do agree with your basic concern expressed below - reliable
alone does not ensure reliable "processing" of web services.
The earlier discussions went down the rat hole because we spent much energy
in beating reliable messaging, which I think is an essential element here.

How about we say

D-AR019.1.3 Web Services Architecture will incorporate support for reliable
invocation of Web Services.

"invocation" will require reliable messaging, and reliable execution of any
choreography, correct
interpretation of semantics, etc. The biggest basket you can find.



-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Baker [mailto:distobj@acm.org]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 2:57 PM
To: ECKERT,ZULAH (HP-Cupertino,ex1)
Cc: WSA W3C Public (E-mail)
Subject: Re: Seeking closure on D-AR019.1.1 and D-AR019.1.3


> D-AR019.1.3 Web Services Architecture will incorporate support for
> messaging.

I've made my objections well known.  Here's some alternatives I could
live with;

.. will not preclude support for reliable messaging

.. will support the ability for components to reliably coordinate
tasks over an unreliable network.  This may include solutions such as
reliable messaging, the definition of a coordination language, other
as-yet-unidentified solutions, or some combination thereof.

Basically, I'd like the wording to not imply that the best way in
which to achieve reliability over a network, is to ensure that every
message is delivered reliably.


Mark Baker, CTO, Idokorro Mobile (formerly Planetfred)
Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA.               distobj@acm.org
http://www.markbaker.ca        http://www.idokorro.com
Received on Wednesday, 24 July 2002 16:19:09 UTC

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