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Re: Late binding

From: Jeff Mischkinsky <jeff.mischkinsky@oracle.com>
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2002 08:45:22 -0700
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To: Mark Baker <distobj@acm.org>, "Newcomer, Eric" <Eric.Newcomer@iona.com>
Cc: www-ws-arch@w3.org

At 06:09 PM 6/30/02, Mark Baker wrote:

>What theory?  I'm talking about the architectural principles behind the
>most widely deployed application on the Internet, the Web.  There's
>nothing theoretical about running code.

So if we took the "web" moniker out of Web Services and called them
Internet Services would that remove the confusion. :-)

>My idea of theoretical is "OMA on the Internet".  People have tried to
>deploy CORBA on the Internet for years, but it never took off.

A: I think you need to check out just how many applications, processing how 
many millions of $$'s of transactions are currently deployed.
B: The fact that people are building a brand new spanking infrastructure to 
do distributed computing, does not mean that the last several incarnations 
did not work.


> > In other words, just because Web architecture works well for what it's 
> used for today, doesn't mean it will work well for Web services.  Let's 
> please focus on what exists today with repect to Web services (I mean can 
> we all please at least agree to confine the debate to what's already in 
> widespread use and how it might best evolve) and focus on the use cases 
> for Web services (and debate how, if at all, principles of Web 
> architecture as articulated by REST might apply to those use cases).
>How do you know that the existing architecture of the Web can't be used
>for what Web services are trying to achieve?  Shouldn't the burden of
>proof be on Web services proponents to demonstrate this?  It concerns
>me greatly that the members of this WG seem to assume this.
>Mark Baker, CTO, Idokorro Mobile (formerly Planetfred)
>Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA.               distobj@acm.org
>http://www.markbaker.ca        http://www.idokorro.com

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