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RE: eBusiness Web Services (ebXML)

From: James M Snell <jasnell@us.ibm.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 11:52:37 -0800
To: "Jean-Jacques Dubray" <jjd@eigner.com>
Cc: "'Duane Nickull'" <duane@xmlglobal.com>, www-ws-arch@w3.org, www-ws-arch-request@w3.org
Message-ID: <OF9BFE486B.52090038-ON88256C93.006D0340-88256C93.006D3048@us.ibm.com>

Sorry for butting in here, but why does there have to be a difference? 
IMHO, Web services have always included both "single-sided APIs" and 
"arbitrary message exchanges".  These are not mutually exclusive goals.

- James Snell
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RE: eBusiness Web Services (ebXML)




Duane:

Thanks for the pointer this is a great presentation. However, I would
argue that there is a fundamental difference in the way ebXML and the
Web Service Architecture represents the world. The WSA views the world
as a series of single-sided APIs that collaborate, while ebXML looks at
the arbitrary exchanges of message between two parties (without taking
the point of view of any party). This separation between the
collaboration view (BPSS) and the business agreements (CPA) on one hand
as well as the technical binding (CPP) on the other hand is very healthy
in B2B scenarios.

Is there any progress made in bringing these two approaches together?

Jean-Jacques Dubray____________________
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: www-ws-arch-request@w3.org [mailto:www-ws-arch-request@w3.org]
On
>>Behalf Of Duane Nickull
>>Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 3:28 PM
>>To: www-ws-arch@w3.org
>>Subject: eBusiness Web Services (ebXML)
>>
>>
>>FYI
>>
>>This is an interesting presentation prepared by Matt MacKenize.  It
>>touches on a few topics of reliable messaging for web services etc.
>>
>>http://www.sigmalogica.com/presentations/ebxml_web_services.ppt
>>
>>Web services are becoming an integral part of what ebXML is evolving
>>into.  The latest Registry has a newly designed (in progress) WSDL
>>binding.
>>
>>Duane Nickull
Received on Wednesday, 18 December 2002 14:57:06 GMT

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