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WOWG: agenda Oct 24 telecon (revised)

From: Guus Schreiber <schreiber@swi.psy.uva.nl>
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 14:17:32 +0200
Message-ID: <3DB7E4DC.9010302@swi.psy.uva.nl>
To: WebOnt WG <www-webont-wg@w3.org>

[incorporates Dan's suggestions]
[includes additional action/issue links]

WEB ONTOLOGY WORKING GROUP
AGENDA/LOGISTICS
October 24, 2002

1200 US East Coast
0900 US West Coast
1700 London

Duration: 75-90 minutes

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Chair: Schreiber
Scribe: <please volunteer>


1) ADMIN (15 min)


1.1 Roll call

Regrets: Hendler, van Harmelen, Hellman, Finin, Heflin, Borden
See list archive for last-minute regrets


1.2 Minutes previous telecon

Proposal to accept as a true record of the Oct 17 telcon:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Oct/0118.html
including amendment sent by Wallace (regrets).


1.3 Agenda amendments


1.4 Fft record

Proposal to accept the follwing as a true record of the face-to-face
meeting in Bristol, Oct 7-8:
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/WebOnt/ftf4

See also message about updates since last week:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Oct/0156.html

ACTION Volz: send OWL Lite in Datalog to W3C for the meeting record
    (Clarification: the presentation materials not just the paper.)


1.5 Telecon schedule

- next telecon: Oct 31 per regular schedule
- scribe solicited for Oct 31
- note that DST end in US and Europe on Oct 27, so time difference
    with Japan increases by 1 hour.


1.6 Upcoming ftf meetings

- Manchester ftf will go though as provisionally planned, but is
    likely to be focused on test and implementations


2) ACTION ITEM REVIEW (0-5 min)

ACTION: Jeremy send message showing how rdfs fits into liite/fast/large
    layering
DONE:
# Layering on RDFS Jeremy Carroll (Fri, Oct 18 2002)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Oct/0113.html

ACTION Ian Horrocks: send www-webont-wg a brief description of
    results of rules work on DAML.
DONE:
# ACTION - rules work on DAML Ian Horrocks (Thu, Oct 17 2002)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Oct/0109.html

ACTION: Frank will come up with some more use cases (ontology merging).
WITHDRAWN: concerns Issue 5.1, discussed 10Sep.
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Sep/0104.html
but issue 5.1 has since been closed.


3) ISSUES (25-35 min)

Issue list:
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/WebOnt/webont-issues.html


3.1 Issue 5.21 "Drop disjointUnionOf"

Issue description:
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/WebOnt/webont-issues.html#I5.21-drop-disjointUnionOf

ACTION: Peter to generate test case to show disjointUnionOf can be
    rephrased w/existing constructs [and propose to close 5.21 by
    removing disjointUnionOf]

Proposal by Patel-Schneider to close this issue:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Oct/0120.html
Response by Connoly (seconds proposal plus worked-out example):
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Oct/0160.html

3.2 Brief review of other open issues

- Issue 4.3 Structured datatypes

ACTION: DanC Write rationale for postponing 4.3.

DONE:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Oct/0157.html

Response by Borden:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Oct/0168.html

- Issue 5.5 List syntax or semantics

ACTION Jeremy Carroll: will move issue 5.5 forward

DONE:
# SEM: List's Jeremy Carroll (Fri, Oct 04 2002)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Oct/0138.html

- Issue 5.7 Range restrictions should not be separate URIs

ACTION Chairs: see if Ziv wishes to push Issue 5.7 or Postpone

- Issue 5.13 Internet Media Type for OWL

ACTION Connolly: to move issue 5.13 forward

DONE:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Oct/0162.html

- Issue 5.14 - Ontology versioning

ACTION: Hayes - send e-mail opposing deprecation.

This seems to come from a 1Sep discussion
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Sep/0172.html
Still relevant?

- Issue 5.18 support for unique names assumption

ACTION Hendler: to move Issue 5.18 forward

See also
# ISSUE 5.18 Unique Names Assumption Support in OWL Jos De_Roo
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Oct/0163.html

and response by Peter Patel-Schneider:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Oct/0169.html

- Issue I5.19 Classes-as-instances

ACTION Jeremy: to do test case for 5.19

cf
# Issue 5.19 Classes-as-instances Jeremy Carroll (Fri, Oct 18 2002)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Oct/0127.html

ACTION Chairs: will ask Raphael if we want to bring this (5.19
   Classes as Instances) forward

ACTION: Frank work with Guus to formulate proposal close
   classes-as-instances incl lite/fast/large
Postponed to next telecon (Frank on holiday)

- New issues:

ACTION DebM: raise hasValue issue.


4) DOCUMENT STATUS REVIEW (25-35 min)

- naming

ACTION Frank: collect suggestions for replacement name (for owl lite,
   large, and fast)

# new names for OWL lite/fast/large Frank van Harmelen (Fri, Oct 18 2002)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Oct/0129.html

and following.

- Test document (Carroll, de Roo)

Cf.
# TEST,EDITORS: WD title change Jeremy Carroll (Tue, Oct 22 2002)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Oct/0143.html

ACTION: Dan Connolly will fix 403 errors arising from the document.

- Guide document (Smith et al.)

ACTION MikeSmith Add indication that classes as instances are part of Large
   OWL in Guide.
ACTION: Thompson - to complete review guide
ACTION: Obrst - to complete review guide.

- Feature syniosis (McGuinness, van Harmelen)

ACTION Deb M: publish synopsis

- OWL Reference (Dean)

ACTION: Jeremy liase with Mike about updating the OWL RDFS namespace doc

ACTION Mike Dean: update reference to remove constraint that
   inversefunctional is objectproperty.

ACTION: Mike to remove the sameXXX statements from owl reference

ACTION MikeD catch ref up with issues, publish reference.

- Abstract syntax (Patel-Schneider, Horrocks)

- Semantics document (Hayes, Patel-Schneider)

ACTION Peter Patel-Schneider/Pat Hayes: draft OWL semantics,
   including the "2 technical bits" [should also address issues 4.6,
   5.9, 5.22]

cf.
# work on OWL semantics Peter F. Patel-Schneider (Wed, Oct 23 2002)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Oct/0161.html

ACTION Pat Hayes: be sure upcoming semantics draft addresses 5.22

ACTION: 4.6 EquivalentTo - suggested that Peter and Pat look at it,
   issue to remain OPEN

ACTION JeremyC: produce test cases (for semantics)

ACTION Dan Connolly: test case (stateCode)

ACTION Jos DeRoo: test case (something about inverseFunctional
   properties and literals) (two test case actions pending release of
   test WD - test area  > temporarily frozen)

- Non-normative Appendices

    * XML presentation syntax (Patel-Schneider)

ACTION Peter Patel-Schneider: to move issue 5.17 XML presentation
   syntax forward

DONE:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Oct/0155.html

    * UML presentation syntax (Schreiber, Wallace)

5) AOB (0-5 min)




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