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RE: [PLS1.0] i18n comment: 3066 or its successor

From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 13:26:06 -0000
To: "'Baggia Paolo'" <paolo.baggia@loquendo.com>
Cc: <public-i18n-core@w3.org>, <www-voice@w3.org>
Message-ID: <011001c7453b$5dd73380$6501a8c0@rishida>

Hello Paolo,

After consultation with the IETF, we propose that you use the following URI
to link to BCP 47.

http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/bcp/bcp47.txt

This should close this comment.

Thanks!

RI

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Baggia Paolo [mailto:paolo.baggia@loquendo.com] 
> Sent: 08 January 2007 09:06
> To: Martin Duerst; Richard Ishida; Richard Ishida
> Cc: Baggia Paolo; public-i18n-core@w3.org; www-voice@w3.org
> Subject: R: [PLS1.0] i18n comment: 3066 or its successor
> 
> R103-20 : 3066 or its successor
> 
>     Resolution: Accepted
> 
>     Recent discussion:
>     
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-voice/2006OctDec/0091.html 
>     and also by Martin Duerst
>     
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-voice/2006OctDec/0099.html 
> 
> We are very happy to apply the requested changes to Section 6.1 [1]
> 
> OLD:
> [BCP47]
> IETF BCP 47, currently represented by Tags for the 
> Identification of Languages, A. Phillips, M. Davis, Editors. 
> IETF, September 2006. This RFC is available at 
> http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4646.txt.
> 
> NEW:
> [BCP47]
> Tags for Identifying Languages, A. Phillips and M. Davis, 
> Editors. IETF, September 2006. This RFC is available at 
> ttp://www.ietf.org/rfc/bcp/bcp47.txt.
> 
> Is this the correction you asked?
> 
> ~~~~~
> Please indicate before 24 January 2007 whether you are 
> satisfied with the VBWG's resolution, whether you think there 
> has been a misunderstanding, or whether you wish to register 
> an objection.
> 
> If you do not think you can respond before 24 January, please 
> let me know. However, if we do not hear from you at all by 24 
> January 2007,
> we will assume that you accept our resolutions.	
> ~~~~~
> 
> Paolo Baggia, editor PLS spec.
> 
> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-pronunciation-lexicon-20061026/#S6.1 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: Martin Duerst [mailto:duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp]
> Inviato: marted́ 19 dicembre 2006 5.10
> A: Richard Ishida; 'Richard Ishida'; Baggia Paolo; www-voice@w3.org
> Cc: public-i18n-core@w3.org
> Oggetto: RE: [PLS1.0] i18n comment: 3066 or its successor
> 
> At 21:40 06/12/15, Richard Ishida wrote:
> >
> >> > R103-20:
> >> > Resolution: Accepted
> >> > 
> >> > - Request to reference: "RFC3066 or its successors"
> >> > - Discussion on the right reference.
> >> > - [3] includes a version you suggested. 
> >> > - If it is fine, please send final acceptance
> >> > 
> >> > + E-mail Trail
> >> > - Original Comment Richard Ishida (2006-03-21)
> >> >   
> >> > 
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-voice/2006JanMar/0079.html
> >> > - VBWG official response to last call issue VBWG (2006-05-26)
> >> >   
> >> > 
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-voice/2006AprJun/0085.html
> >> > - Comment to VBWG official response Richard Ishida (2006-07-28)
> >> >   
> >> > 
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-voice/2006JulSep/0027.html
> >
> >
> >Instead of:
> >===============
> >[BCP47]
> >    IETF BCP 47, currently represented by Tags for the 
> Identification 
> >of Languages, A. Phillips, M. Davis, Editors. IETF, September 2006. 
> >This RFC is available at http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4646.txt.
> >================
> >
> >Please point to BCP47 using one of the following URIs
> >-      ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/bcp/bcp47.txt
> >-      http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/bcp/bcp47.txt
> 
> I very much suggest you do not use either of the above, but 
> http://www.ietf.org/rfc/bcp/bcp47.txt. This not only means 
> you don't need to wait for the rfc-editor to make up its mind 
> about ftp vs. http, but it also means that you clearly show 
> that this BCP and the RFCs it subsumes is approved by the 
> IETF, and was produced by an IETF WG.
> 
> While technically, the copy at
> http://www.ietf.org/rfc/bcp/bcp47.txt
> originates from one of the former localions (most probably 
> the ftp one), the rfc editor is not much more than a 
> combination of webmaster and official proofreader when 
> translated to W3C terms.
> 
> Regards,    Martin.
> 
> >We are still awaiting a response from the IETF editor as to which of 
> >these two is preferred. I would think that if you need to 
> choose before 
> >we get a reply, you should just choose whichever you prefer.
> >
> >Note that the document pointed to by these URIs is a 
> concatenation of 
> >RFC
> >4646 and RFC 4647.  If talking about a specific RFC, 
> however, be sure 
> >to say 'or its successor', since we are expecting a 
> successor to appear 
> >in a few months time.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >RI
> >
> >============
> >Richard Ishida
> >Internationalization Lead
> >W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)
> >
> >http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/
> >http://www.w3.org/International/
> >http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/ishida/
> > 
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: public-i18n-core-request@w3.org 
> >> [mailto:public-i18n-core-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Ishida
> >> Sent: 28 July 2006 12:40
> >> To: 'Baggia Paolo'; www-voice@w3.org
> >> Cc: public-i18n-core@w3.org
> >> Subject: RE: [PLS1.0] i18n comment: 3066 or its successor
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Hi Paolo,
> >> 
> >> I think we can substantially improve on the reference in 
> SVG Mobile 
> >> by pointing to BCP 47 directly.  The problem is choosing 
> which of the 
> >> several direct links is best.
> >> 
> >> I have sent a note to the person at the IETF who is 
> shepherding RFC 
> >> 3066bis, and will let you know his reply.
> >> 
> >> Cheers,
> >> RI
> >>  
> >> 
> >> 
> >> ============
> >> Richard Ishida
> >> Internationalization Lead
> >> W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)
> >> 
> >> http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/
> >> http://www.w3.org/International/
> >> http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/
> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ishida/
> 
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