RE: w3c validator with authtype = digest

Good day,

We got a server that's serving webpages for our students. The server's address is COIS-linux.austincc.edu.
We were able to do the html validation against validator.w3.org
but we weren't able to do the ccs validation against jigsaw.w3.org
The error message is 
Target: http://cois-linux.austincc.edu/~yost3575830/


I/O Error: 
Unable to contact target server cois-linux.austincc.edu:80 after 3 tries. 


We were able to do the validation against both server before.
Here is what I found out. On cois-linux.austincc.edu, the ping against jigsaw.w3.org failed.

COIS-Linux:/ # ping jigsaw.w3.org
PING jigsaw.w3.org (128.30.52.72) 56(84) bytes of data.

--- jigsaw.w3.org ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 2009ms

The traceroute ended at trantor.haven.csail.mit.edu.
COIS-Linux:/ # traceroute jigsaw.w3.org
traceroute to jigsaw.w3.org (128.30.52.72), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  aus-thenet-core-ge-0-1-0-11.the.net (129.117.37.113)  7.417 ms   5.432 ms   5.558 ms
 2  aust-utnoc-core-ge-6-0-0-2.tx-bb.net (192.12.10.109)  5.592 ms   6.691 ms   6.250 ms
 3  dlls-lvl3-core-ge-2-0-0-1-v741.tx-bb.net (192.124.227.34)  14.014 ms   14.208 ms   13.473 ms
 4  dlls-lvl3-isp-vlan710.tx-bb.net (192.124.227.74)  7.051 ms   6.726 ms   6.869 ms
 5  xe-9-3-0.edge3.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.79.182.245)  6.945 ms   6.212 ms   6.633 ms
 6  ae-82-80.ebr2.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.145.179)  13.693 ms ae-72-70.ebr2.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.145.115)  10.869 ms ae-82-80.ebr2.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.145.179)  9.957 ms
 7  ae-3.ebr4.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.137.122)  42.036 ms   41.653 ms   50.545 ms
 8  ae-74-74.csw2.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.118)  48.631 ms ae-84-84.csw3.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.122)  41.782 ms ae-94-94.csw4.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.126)  44.200 ms
 9  ae-61-61.ebr1.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.65)  42.783 ms ae-71-71.ebr1.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.69)  42.516 ms ae-81-81.ebr1.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.73)  42.514 ms
10  * * *
11  * * *
12  ae-7-7.car1.Boston1.Level3.net (4.69.132.241)  73.494 ms   69.682 ms   67.185 ms
13  MASSACHUSET.car1.Boston1.Level3.net (4.53.48.98)  47.123 ms   47.394 ms   45.968 ms
14  B24-RTR-2-BACKBONE.MIT.EDU (18.168.0.23)  47.419 ms   49.229 ms   47.812 ms
15  MITNET.TRANTOR.CSAIL.MIT.EDU (18.4.7.65)  47.752 ms   48.158 ms   46.905 ms
16  trantor.haven.csail.mit.edu (128.30.0.254)  47.429 ms   47.142 ms   47.461 ms
17  * * *
....
While on other machines, I was able to ping and the traceroute return successful
quasar:~ # traceroute jigsaw.w3.org
traceroute to jigsaw.w3.org (128.30.52.72), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  10.44.0.2 (10.44.0.2)  0.323 ms   0.274 ms   0.276 ms
 2  10.0.41.1 (10.0.41.1)  0.781 ms   0.708 ms   0.804 ms
 3  aus-thenet-core-ge-0-1-0-11.the.net (129.117.37.113)  1.495 ms   1.789 ms   1.595 ms
 4  aust-utnoc-core-ge-6-0-0-2.tx-bb.net (192.12.10.109)  1.274 ms   1.231 ms   1.177 ms
 5  dlls-lvl3-core-ge-2-0-0-1-v741.tx-bb.net (192.124.227.34)  6.118 ms   5.939 ms   5.914 ms
 6  dlls-lvl3-isp-vlan710.tx-bb.net (192.124.227.74)  6.638 ms   6.692 ms   6.723 ms
 7  xe-9-3-0.edge3.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.79.182.245)  6.719 ms   6.769 ms   6.399 ms
 8  ae-82-80.ebr2.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.145.179)  9.587 ms ae-62-60.ebr2.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.145.51)  9.258 ms ae-82-80.ebr2.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.145.179)  7.290 ms
 9  ae-3.ebr4.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.137.122)  44.018 ms   43.037 ms   41.515 ms
10  ae-94-94.csw4.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.126)  41.329 ms ae-64-64.csw1.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.114)  43.125 ms ae-94-94.csw4.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.126)  52.794 ms
11  ae-81-81.ebr1.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.73)  41.800 ms   42.275 ms ae-61-61.ebr1.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.65)  41.696 ms
12  ae-1-8.bar2.Boston1.Level3.net (4.69.140.97)  46.552 ms   46.920 ms   46.620 ms
13  * * *
14  ae-7-7.car1.Boston1.Level3.net (4.69.132.241)  63.396 ms   63.084 ms   61.930 ms
15  MASSACHUSET.car1.Boston1.Level3.net (4.53.48.98)  47.228 ms   46.710 ms   46.618 ms
16  B24-RTR-2-BACKBONE-2.MIT.EDU (18.168.1.23)  46.851 ms   47.044 ms   47.036 ms
17  MITNET.TRANTOR.CSAIL.MIT.EDU (18.4.7.65)  46.964 ms   47.623 ms   46.691 ms
18  trantor.haven.csail.mit.edu (128.30.0.254)  47.164 ms   47.219 ms   46.683 ms
19  dr-nick.w3.org (128.30.52.72)  47.063 ms   47.331 ms   47.179 ms

the traceroute against validator on COIS-linux.austincc.edu was also successful
COIS-Linux:/ # traceroute validator.w3.org
traceroute to validator.w3.org (128.30.52.70), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  aus-thenet-core-ge-0-1-0-11.the.net (129.117.37.113)  5.842 ms   6.529 ms   5.659 ms
 2  aust-utnoc-core-ge-6-0-0-2.tx-bb.net (192.12.10.109)  4.727 ms   3.795 ms   3.611 ms
 3  dlls-lvl3-core-ge-2-0-0-1-v741.tx-bb.net (192.124.227.34)  9.267 ms   9.275 ms   9.173 ms
 4  dlls-lvl3-isp-vlan710.tx-bb.net (192.124.227.74)  86.836 ms   85.341 ms   81.215 ms
 5  xe-9-3-0.edge3.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.79.182.245)  10.046 ms   12.044 ms   11.994 ms
 6  ae-92-90.ebr2.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.145.243)  15.479 ms ae-62-60.ebr2.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.145.51)  10.909 ms ae-82-80.ebr2.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.145.179)  10.855 ms
 7  * ae-3.ebr4.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.137.122)  55.284 ms   52.304 ms
 8  ae-74-74.csw2.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.118)  54.329 ms ae-84-84.csw3.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.122)  51.999 ms ae-94-94.csw4.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.126)  59.974 ms
 9  ae-61-61.ebr1.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.65)  49.059 ms ae-71-71.ebr1.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.69)  47.999 ms ae-81-81.ebr1.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.73)  47.673 ms
10  * * *
11  ae-0-11.bar1.Boston1.Level3.net (4.69.140.89)  55.169 ms   52.933 ms   54.446 ms
12  ae-7-7.car1.Boston1.Level3.net (4.69.132.241)  53.582 ms   53.361 ms   52.963 ms
13  MASSACHUSET.car1.Boston1.Level3.net (4.53.48.98)  47.755 ms   47.402 ms   47.528 ms
14  B24-RTR-2-BACKBONE.MIT.EDU (18.168.0.23)  47.971 ms   48.231 ms   47.329 ms
15  MITNET.TRANTOR.CSAIL.MIT.EDU (18.4.7.65)  47.497 ms   47.156 ms   47.518 ms
16  trantor.haven.csail.mit.edu (128.30.0.254)  47.978 ms   47.748 ms   51.978 ms
17  krusty.w3.org (128.30.52.70)  48.280 ms   46.816 ms   46.945 ms

So I was thinking perhaps COIS-linux.austincc.edu is blocked by jigsaw.w3.org? Would you please kindly check?

Thanks.

Duen-wen Hsiao


> CC: www-validator@w3.org
> From: ot@w3.org
> To: edvwkh@hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: w3c validator with authtype = digest
> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:12:29 -0500
> 
> Hello,
> 
> On 26-Jan-09, at 9:12 PM, Duen-wen Hsiao wrote:
> > I have a question for you. One of our instructors is using w3c  
> > validator for her classes. However, we are using authtype = digest  
> > instead of basic for authentication for each individual student's  
> > webpages. And looks like the w3c validator does not work.
> 
> Yes, unfortunately, due to the way digest authentication works, there  
> is no way (or rather I should say, none known to us) we could have the  
> validator proxy the authentication for digest-auth protected  
> resources. See ramblings on the topic here:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-qa-dev/2007Feb/0000.html
> 
> One solution I could think of would be to install the validator on  
> your internal network and then set up your web server to not require  
> authentication for that particular host/IP.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> olivier
> -- 
> olivier Thereaux - W3C Open Source Software : http://www.w3.org/Status
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Received on Saturday, 12 September 2009 14:18:56 UTC